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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 4, 2017 22:16:58 GMT
Not exactly Oz. If you're referring to the dashpot damper that screws into the top of the dome that the SU air slide functions in. The dashpot damper's job is to provide a richer mixtture (like an accelerator pump) when you floor the accelerator pedal suddenly. The oil within the chamber acts on the one way valve mechanism at the base of the damper to slow the air slide as it lifts...this momentarily enrichens the mixture during hard acceleration. Leaving the damper off will not cause a vacuum leak nor will it affect the engine's mixture during gentle driving. Only during hard aceleration will the engine run slightly lean or have a flat moment. Whatever is currently at fault is elsewhere! I was reading up last night and I'd agree, anyway, we'll sort it. Tried again this morning, battery is weak but turned over, I'm pretty sure it's fuel related, pump is running, fuel in bowl but no fuel smell at all. I would expect trying to start a motor with no spark would just flood and it would smell bad..... I'll pull the fuel hose at the bowl and see if it's pumping, if it is then something is wrong in the carb.
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Post by enigmas on Jun 5, 2017 1:21:59 GMT
Try simple things first such as...inject a small amount of fuel into the carburettor throat...if it fires its fuel related. If it doesn't position the coil lead end 2 - 3 mm away from bare metal on the block. Have an assistant crank the engine with the ignition on. If there's a spark produced discount this as a fault, if none...that's your problem.
It can only ever be 2 things...fuel or spark or both!
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 5, 2017 3:01:18 GMT
Try simple things first such as...inject a small amount of fuel into the carburettor throat...if it fires its fuel related. If it doesn't position the coil lead end 2 - 3 mm away from bare metal on the block. Have an assistant crank the engine with the ignition on. If there's a spark produced discount this as a fault, if none...that's your problem. It can only ever be 2 things...fuel or spark or both! I'll check it when I get home..
My guess is fuel, it showed classic 'out of fuel' symptoms, sitting at 100 on the Westgate Freeway, bit of a cough, then another, a splutter then nothing all in the space of a 500 metres.
No fuel smell when trying to restart.
Electrics are a mess on this thing so I won't discount anything.
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Post by Warwick on Jun 5, 2017 6:35:44 GMT
Sometimes it's both, Vince. It reminds me of a problem with a Peugeot 403 about 40 years ago. It was my younger brother's car. He'd just finished respraying it and I'd rewired it for him. We were coming home one Sunday afternoon after a weekend at Mt. Baw Baw. The car had run fine the whole time but we began to lose power, at 100kph, going up hills on the highway. If he backed off it was fine. On the flat and downhill it was fine. It idled properly.
On opening the bonnet, I found the problem. I'd replaced the battery to starter motor cable with a nice heavy one. It was slightly longer than the original. It had moved during the trip and was now touching the mechanical fuel pump, holding down the manual priming lever about halfway, limiting the stroke of the pump. A fuel problem caused by an 'electrical' problem.
And I'm also reminded of something someone told me years ago, before diesels went all electronic and computerised. He said if a diesel won't start, it's almost always a fuel problem. If it's not a fuel problem, the engine is stuffed.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 5, 2017 7:15:45 GMT
Snuck home early before it got dark, unfortunately not much life in my battery.
I did notice the tacho stopped working and I've now pulled a plug to test for spark.
Battery is on charge, I'll try in the morning.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 8, 2017 2:56:59 GMT
Snuck home early before it got dark, unfortunately not much life in my battery. I did notice the tacho stopped working and I've now pulled a plug to test for spark. Battery is on charge, I'll try in the morning. No spark, still may not be the issue that caused breakdown. I'm going to rewire all the engine electrics at the weekend. I can then rule that out. It was on the todo list anyway.
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Post by Warwick on Jun 8, 2017 3:21:49 GMT
If you're not concerned about wiring originality when rewiring a car, try trailer cable. As you may know, it comes in either 5-core or 7-core, and they are all different colours. Very handy 'pre-loomed' automotive wiring that can handle all the general low current stuff.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 8, 2017 8:18:24 GMT
If you're not concerned about wiring originality when rewiring a car, try trailer cable. As you may know, it comes in either 5-core or 7-core, and they are all different colours. Very handy 'pre-loomed' automotive wiring that can handle all the general low current stuff. I'm going to do the core ignition stuff 15 amp, the rest as I go through it will be trailer wire. I have a heap of it from when I redone the trailer. The ebay lights I bought turned up with a new connector and 5 metres of 7 core wire
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 10, 2017 6:24:15 GMT
If you're not concerned about wiring originality when rewiring a car, try trailer cable. As you may know, it comes in either 5-core or 7-core, and they are all different colours. Very handy 'pre-loomed' automotive wiring that can handle all the general low current stuff. I'm going to do the core ignition stuff 15 amp, the rest as I go through it will be trailer wire. I have a heap of it from when I redone the trailer. The ebay lights I bought turned up with a new connector and 5 metres of 7 core wire Spent the day figuring out the wiring, it appeared to be a mishmash of original wiring for the Magneto mixed with direct wiring for the Alternator. I've ripped out everything that has been added, spliced and jammed into connectors. d**n hard when all the different coloured wires in the engine bay and beyond are now all brown I've rewired it as per Alternator requirements and everything appears to work. Car still had no spark, everything tested fine except the coil. I've robbed the coil from the mini but it still won't go. I suspect flooded and flat battery. Back to basics, spark, fuel, air. Tomorrow is another day
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Post by enigmas on Jun 10, 2017 7:52:39 GMT
it appeared to be a mishmash of original wiring for the Magneto mixed with direct wiring for the Alternator. Car still had no spark Oz I'm certain there's no 'magneto' on the car...do you mean, 'electronic ignition module? Why not just run a very basic ignition circuit...hot wire it...forget the main loom...there'll be fuel in the carburettor bowl so if you crank it, it should fire! If there's no fuel in the carburettor remove the filter and paraphernalia, lift the carb slide and aerosol some petrol into the throat using a discarded pump spray bottle.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 10, 2017 8:03:15 GMT
it appeared to be a mishmash of original wiring for the Magneto mixed with direct wiring for the Alternator. Car still had no spark Oz I'certain there's no 'magneto' on the car...do you mean, 'electronic ignition module? Why not just run a very basic ignition circuit...hot wire it...forget the main loom...there'll be fuel in the carburettor bowl so if you crank it, it should fire! If there's no fuel in the carburettor remove the filter and paraphernalia, lift the carb slide and aerosol some petrol into the throat using a discarded pump spray bottle. It was a Dynamo, it's been changed out with an Alternator.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 11, 2017 6:15:48 GMT
It's Alive..... Broken wire in the distributor. Looked fine, it only moved away from where it was connected to when I was about to pull out the points. Wiring is a mess, nothing matches the manual and not much makes sense. Off to the Auto Electrician to get the basics all wired correctly.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 18, 2017 8:19:22 GMT
Weekend Summary
Pulled the front seats out and refitted the rails, adjusted the seat back angle and replaced the bolts holding them on so the seats can be adjusted.
Sealed up all the 'weld' holes with putty in the rear exhaust section, I didn't pull it off and weld it as I am adding a muffler to the rear next week. Currently it is straight through with only a centre muffler, sounds like an old work van.
Pulled off the alternator, modified the brackets etc. to align the pulleys, and refitted. Luckily the bearings aren't stuffed due to poor fitment.
Replaced the 2 fuse junction with a 10 connector fuse box today. Traced and identified individual wires where I could, there are still a heap that make no sense.
Auto electrician can fix the rest.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jun 24, 2017 8:12:52 GMT
Pulled out the upper dash and Binnacle today to reupholster them.
I'll redo everything in marine vinyl, it's UV stabilised so the sun won't destroy it like the existing stuff.
Dash had a bit of surface rust and I found a hole in the body where the drain hole is on the drivers side pillar.
Rubbed it all down and treated with rust converter / primer, the hole isn't structural and is not seen.
Started sanding all the timber, each piece seems to be a different colour wood, hopefully it will all look the same when stained.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jul 9, 2017 5:32:53 GMT
Redone the upper dash and binnacle as well as restaining the timber window trim. The timber on the gloveboxes and dash were just too far gone so I have upholstered them the same as the upper dash.
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Post by enigmas on Jul 9, 2017 8:18:33 GMT
Black seems to be your thing Oz?
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jul 9, 2017 13:38:28 GMT
Black seems to be your thing Oz? Unfortunately the previous owner painted the entire interior black. Carpets and all.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jul 25, 2017 9:11:49 GMT
Just found out that the vinyl I've covered the dash with is not the UV Stabilized Marine Vinyl I ordered but just ordinary stuff for interiors. Went to a different store (Same Company) to get more today only to find the real stuff is thicker and smoother. Can't even go back to where I bought it as the franchise has (been) closed down......wonder why We'll see how it goes in the Aussie sun.
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Post by Warwick on Jul 25, 2017 10:28:11 GMT
Just use a sun shade when you park it on a sunny day, and it should be OK. Don't forget it was a very long time before makers of cars exported down-under bothered to consider our climate when designing dashboards and interior trim. But we managed by covering them when parked in the sun.
It does look good. It would be a shame to have to rip it off and start again.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jul 27, 2017 10:25:37 GMT
Inspired by 'Velvet's' stunning work on interiors I thought I'd have a go at some beading for my door cards. I bought some burgundy vinyl from the clearance bin and combined it with the 3mm plastic tubing left over from my washer repair. This is my first go glued to the carpet material for the bottom of the door cards. (considering stapling as well) If successful I'll add bits through the interior to give it a bit of a lift. Hopefully I'll have at least the rear doors finished by Saturday night. (Timber frames have been repaired and stained (badly, I'll call it character )
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Post by ozriderp5 on Jul 29, 2017 22:57:13 GMT
Rear door cards remade, I've used the original armrests but made new cards using the old ones I bought as a template. Holes on the right all lined up perfect, left not so much. I've also redone all the timber frames and reupholstered the black inserts. This is what all the door cards looked like when I bought it..
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Post by ozriderp5 on Aug 1, 2017 10:21:27 GMT
Took the car to a local car club "Sunday Informal Show' at the weekend, basically they all turn up, sausage sizzle etc to raise money for charity...
Anyway, we pulled in to lots of turned heads and much to my surprise we were surrounded by the time we stopped the engine.
Huge interest in the car, ranging from the 'What is it' to the 'Yeah, I've got one as well, but it's at home....'
Good to see that people appreciate the work that goes into them.
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Post by ozriderp5 on Aug 6, 2017 7:17:38 GMT
Did the front cards over the weekend, not too happy with the results but that's just me... I redid the armrests as per original adjustable height set up and they are shockers. I will pull them off again next weekend and permanently fix them. Probably seemed like a good idea in 1960. So before and after shots....
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Post by ozriderp5 on Sept 3, 2017 6:58:37 GMT
It's Fathers Day here in Oz so we went out for breakfast and on to a local Show-Car car show in Melbourne.
Everything from the Mad Max cars to Hot Rods and modern classics. Good day.
The old Rover got a bit of attention in the car park and on the way home. Almost the wrong sort, it was nearly on a tow truck again .
I had just past the last place it died and made the mistake of commenting that at least we had made it further....Jinx , 100 metres later, Cough, Cough, Splutter....thank goodness for a reserve fuel tank option! It ended up taking 57 litres so it must have been well down. I really need to get the fuel gauge fixed.
When I opened the filler it had water up to the tank neck, I had to soak it up with paper towel before I could fill up.
When I come out from the servo there was a guy with a left hand drive Ford Fairlane 2 door soft top talking to my wife, he is currently looking at a P5B Coupe for his wife and is making two Mini's into one rust free one.
First time driven in the rain, wipers actually work
Filler drain hole and pipe now cleaned out and functioning.PS. We got there before the car park filled up, Graffiti, Street Art or Vandalism? This spot has been deemed street art, it's on the wall of a theatre.
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Post by enigmas on Sept 3, 2017 7:42:02 GMT
Sounds like an exciting day out Oz! Glad you made it home...the Rover P5 guardian angels were obviously looking over your shoulder.
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