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Post by dhb5610 on Feb 25, 2019 14:45:05 GMT
Hi Good afternoon, could someone please post me a link to allow me to find the information about puttiing the coachline on my Rover P5B saloon. I did have all the infomation but I seem to have lost it.
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Post by Brendan69 on Feb 25, 2019 14:59:42 GMT
Hi, hows it going??? I think they were all hand painted on the line were they not albeit I think mine were re-done at some point.
What exactly are you looking for info wise??
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Post by dhb5610 on Feb 25, 2019 15:05:21 GMT
Hi Brendan there is some information on the forum that relates to putting coach lines on the Rover P5B saloon it give details on where to paint the line and the exact colour. It came from either a you tube video or an article from the Take Five magazine
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Post by David on Feb 25, 2019 15:24:29 GMT
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Post by lagain on Feb 25, 2019 17:06:52 GMT
I think that I did an article for the magazine, but it could be as far back as 2014. If you need to know about positioning I have pictures that are much too big for the forum but send me a private message with an email address and I can send them.
Rover only used 2 colours for coachlines on P5bs, Burnt Grey on Silver Birch cars and Silver Birch on all the others, apart from the very late brown ones.
Many years ago a friend told me how he took his car to a garage to have a coach line put on. The painter appeared, he was elderly and with the shakes. My friend turned to the garage owner to ask if the old chap was up to doing it and then turned back and it was done - perfect !
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 25, 2019 17:44:24 GMT
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Post by dhb5610 on Feb 25, 2019 19:53:19 GMT
Thank you for your help
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Post by tonys on Feb 25, 2019 22:18:25 GMT
I know that the issue of coachline colours has previously been discussed at some length and I note the comment re 'no cars had white coachlines' despite what's written in James Taylor's book.
Did black saloons (not mentioned in the article referred to in the link), ie often ex-MOD or ex-govt., have Silver Birch coachlines? I thought I'd read elsewhere that they were white but as it's a long time since I last looked closely at one, I can't remember.
Does anybody on here have a black car still with its original paint?
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Post by David on Feb 26, 2019 9:15:50 GMT
Hi Tony, The link to the article article currently here is an update of an earlier article (as shown by John) I did way back. It took me around a year to get the original details together, going to various rallies, measuring lines and checking colours.
I do remember that no original cars were found with white or black coachlines. It may be that I simply never found one, but of the ones I did see they were either silver birch or burnt grey, where appropriate. I also remember discussing this with James Taylor (again way back), but as I said in the article, white or black coachlines are too much of contrast, and not in keeping with the Rover philosophy at that time.
This is only my opinion of course as no definitive Rover guideline can be found.
Then again Rover was a bit quirky - for example, the front stainless steel trim either side of the orange indicators are a different length (see gap between the trim and indicator)... or is it the wings that are different lengths. But that, as they say, is a different story. :-)
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Post by Eric R on Feb 26, 2019 9:57:26 GMT
I had coachlines applied to my all-white coupe last year after studying all the paperwork and opinions in the forum and I am very satisfied with the result. However I did read that in the case of a single white, (JT p139) black was the only colour of the coachlines.
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Post by Brendan69 on Feb 26, 2019 12:44:39 GMT
Well guys, My August 1973 Registered Admiralty Blue P5B saloon has " WHITE " coach lines on it.
I saw some of the very last hidden away MOD/Government Black cars in an Army base years ago which were all Black with Tan interiors and they all had White coachlines on them too albeit I have also seen some Black cars with NO coachline at all. Must be for Tactical camoflarge reasons. LOL
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Post by lagain on Feb 26, 2019 19:30:31 GMT
Well guys, My August 1973 Registered Admiralty Blue P5B saloon has " WHITE " coach lines on it. I saw some of the very last hidden away MOD/Government Black cars in an Army base years ago which were all Black with Tan interiors and they all had White coachlines on them too albeit I have also seen some Black cars with NO coachline at all. Must be for Tactical camoflarge reasons. LOL If they are white they will have been redone at some time. Is your car a single colour ? One of the most popular combinations is Silver Birch over Admiralty Blue and the coach lines are always the same colour as the roof. Silver Birch is a very pale grey and can be mistaken for white, until you see a Silver Birch car next to a white one.
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Post by Brendan69 on Feb 27, 2019 16:21:45 GMT
Hi George, My car is a saloon so one colour only all over. It is possible they could have been re-done at some point in the cars life albeit I fear not but you never know. Ive just looked at them again in the garage under the shade and they do look a silvery colour this time although I still think they look white when the car is outside.
Regards, Brendan
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Post by David on Feb 28, 2019 9:29:36 GMT
If original, on a P5B, it will be silver birch IMHO As I explained in the other post on 'coachline colours', your eye has difficulty differentiating between shades, when the line is so thin, especially when applied to dark bodied cars. Black & white however does not have the same spectrum range, so appear as a noticeable contrast. Add the option of a warm grey (hint of red) or cold grey (hint of Blue) and it opens a whole new can of worms. Silver Birch, by the way, is in the cold grey range.. If you are so inclined, get a sheet of dark paper. Cut in half and place on the bonnet of a light coloured car (ideally silver birch) with a gap to the same width as your coachline, and see what colour you see. This example shows two grey squares (A & B) that appear different, but are in fact the same shade. (R-137, G-137, B-137) Your eyes fool you in to seeing a different shade of grey.
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Post by Brendan69 on Feb 28, 2019 10:56:20 GMT
I think I need to go see an optician then as when I woke up this morning I said " who the hell are you " to the missus laying next to me or so I thought it was. LOL
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