adam
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Post by adam on Aug 15, 2019 11:54:53 GMT
How easy is it to install a radio into a P5 that has never had one? - What do I need -Any recommendations on head unit -Any recommendations on speakers ( product and placement)
Thanks
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Aug 15, 2019 15:30:31 GMT
Hi Adam if you want to make it look original you will need the centre console which takes the radio but only has one elliptical speaker you have to remember stereo didn't come in till much later! you don't say what year your P5 is so it may or may not have the rear parcel shelf with a speaker cut out. So what you fit in regards to the radio speakers etc will be your personal choice :-)
Try David Green I am sure he will have one!
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adam
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Post by adam on Aug 15, 2019 15:44:22 GMT
Its a 1963, I don't mind about having a modern ish radio low down on the parcel shelf but I am concerned about the wiring
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Aug 15, 2019 15:56:22 GMT
If there is no radio at all you would have as standard (if fitted) is one brown wire which would have a push to fit fuse holder and is fed from position 4 on the ignition switch.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Aug 15, 2019 20:06:11 GMT
If no radio ever fitted there will be no wiring in place at all. As John says you will need the centre console radio fitment in place of the centre glove box if you want it to look authentic and this is non-Din fitment so modern units will not fit with modification.
The ignition fed feed is terminal 4 on the ignition switch - a modern radio will also need a fused permanent live from the ignition switch. aAn earth cable will be needed to the dash rail. The roof ariel cable is fed down behind the A post screen pillar
The speaker wiring is as required - mountings can be on the rear parcel shelf or the front foot wells
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Post by Ken Nelson on Aug 15, 2019 22:21:32 GMT
I mounted a period correct AM radio in my 1966 P5 Coupe using the center console piece. I had to make the 2 mounting pieces to screw the radio to the center console.
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Post by Ken Nelson on Aug 15, 2019 22:22:22 GMT
Finished product Attachments:
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Post by velvet on Aug 16, 2019 9:09:36 GMT
i went the whole hog and fitted a state-of-the-art entertainment system with sat-nav. Not to everyones taste i know, but easily reversable.
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adam
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Post by adam on Aug 16, 2019 11:11:38 GMT
Thanks ALL!
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Post by enigmas on Aug 18, 2019 6:47:13 GMT
Here's a AM/FM Radio/CD player (in my MK3 Coupe) with a tape deck fitted below and a USB port & 12 volt supply beside it with the blue lights. Rubber caps push into these ports to seal them when not in use. Toggle switches for the Radio/CF player, Tape Deck, USB port, & 12v supply are to the left
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Post by Eric R on Aug 18, 2019 13:31:55 GMT
just an aside - can anyone actually HEAR a radio with an engine running in a Rover of this vintage?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Aug 18, 2019 16:47:00 GMT
Our 1964 3 Litre Coupe is very quiet - better than V8. With either there are less programmes on AM these days and they are due to be phased out anyway soon
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Post by djm16 on Aug 18, 2019 20:33:08 GMT
I recommend a hidden modern system. You can put the head unit inside the centre glovebox, a pair of slim speakers behind the hardboard at the back of the parcel shelves, another pair of speakers underneath the rear parcel shelf and a subwoofer (again slimline) behind the rear seat back. You can get remote controlled head units so that they can be operated without opening the glovebox.
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Post by OlafR on Aug 19, 2019 7:14:14 GMT
just an aside - can anyone actually HEAR a radio with an engine running in a Rover of this vintage? Yes - in my car, someone fitted speakers on the rear shelf. While I don't like their looks very much (my guess is that they were fitted in the eighties), the sound they produce is OK. I also have speakers under the dash. My guess is that they're from the seventies - some sort of aluminum, I don't know. All four together are good for some nice sound. Although usually, I'll only have the radio on during longer trips (like hundreds of miles). Most of the time the engine sound is my radio. :-)
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Aug 19, 2019 7:57:04 GMT
I did fit a hidden radio a few years ago but reverted to original
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Post by Brendan69 on Aug 19, 2019 8:41:24 GMT
That's a good mod John albeit I understand the reversion back to old skool. I managed to aquire an original P5B radio with surround and just saving up to have it fully modern day converted internally. There is a guy in Reading who does them but it is an expensive job at nearly£700 but well worth it for what you get for your money.
Regards,
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Post by velvet on Aug 19, 2019 15:31:56 GMT
i think the best place to put the radio is in the centre console, and there is still enough room to put your 2 switches and cigar lighter. You could use a donor panel to do this and keep the original panel spare if you ever wanted to revert back.
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Post by Brendan69 on Aug 20, 2019 8:41:16 GMT
That's a real shame buddy.
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Post by Warwick on Aug 20, 2019 8:51:44 GMT
That's a real shame buddy. It’s not a shame Brendan, it’s a d**n outrage, sir!
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Post by bristol406 on Jan 2, 2020 20:07:36 GMT
On the subject of radios; I need to run some speaker cables from the central glove box to the boot. Before I start dismantling things can anyone suggest the easiest way to route the cables for rear speakers ?
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Post by Brendan69 on Jan 3, 2020 16:31:54 GMT
I would simply run them under either side door sill trims/carpet and then up under the rear seat to your desired location where you want to put speakers or speaker.
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Post by lagain on Jan 3, 2020 20:36:33 GMT
If you put a single speaker in the central position under the rear shelf you will need to remove the upright part of the rear seat. First remove the 'seats' then put a thick dust sheet over the centre armrest to protect the surface. Remove the bolts accessed from the boot that hold the upright part of the seat and then from inside the car, lift it from the bottom a couple of inches before pulling forwards.
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Post by bristol406 on Jan 4, 2020 20:42:18 GMT
Very helpfull. Thanks guys. I'm planning to install two rear speakers so maybe run both cables down one side under the sill trim. I'm building a touch screen head unit that will only be visible when you pull down the cental glove box lid.
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Post by djm16 on Jan 5, 2020 1:55:04 GMT
I ran my cables down the side of the transmission tunnel. There are two bolts / nuts behind the central armrest in a 3-litre, I do not know if the P5b is the same.
lastly, there is just room for slim speakers under the rear shelf. It means removing the vinyl covering and drilling / punching about a thousand holes to let the sound out, but a much more aesthetic result that mounting boxes above the shelf.
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Post by enigmas on Jan 5, 2020 2:12:56 GMT
Not wanting to rain on anyones parade...but, any modifications (especially 'cutting into the rear parcel shelf' or removing metal structurally from the shelf to fit speakers is an instant roadworthy fail in Victoria, Oz.
* This mainly has to do with younger music boppers fitting large 'doof doof' speakers in the rear parcel shelf of their cars. The cars then become unroadworthy & unsaleable until properly repaired and inspected by an engineer!
Kind of a dumb law but I'm only reiterating what I've been told by a former mechanic.
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