Coachlines and badges

[alanpearl]

Hi
I was wondering if you could please help. After ten years of ownership I am finally getting the coachlines and badges put back on my P5b coupe. Specifically the body coachlines and 3.5 litre badges, and the ROVER boot lettering.
I recall from many years ago a description of how to position these, and how to put the angle on the coachlines, but cannot find it even with the search.
I’m having it done professionally but it would help the guy to have the locations.
Many thanks
Al

[David]

Hi Alan, it was I who put the coachline article together, with photos thanks to George Parker. :-)

Here is a copy. Print out to A4 as this will give you the coachline weight of line to follow.

[alanpearl]

That’s wonderful. Thank you very much. I’ve also got the steel sill trims to reattach so hopefully the old girl will look more classy!

[Steed]

.....sure 'she' will. Send in some pics!

[alanpearl]

Will do!
Ps does anyone have the measurements and/or good images for how to position the R O V E R lettering on the boot?
Thanks again
Alex

[Brendan69]

Im sure the boot lids are pre drilled to take the little letters??

[johnwp5bcoupe]

Nov 20, 2019 10:03:53 GMT Brendan69 said:

Im sure the boot lids are pre drilled to take the little letters??

Not if its a new one Brenden

[Phil Nottingham]

Note that P5s had the letters closer together and different shaped heavier letters

[Brendan69]

Oh right. That would be a PITA to do then if no holes in it. LOL

[lagain]

Just had a look at mine and the V is in the middle. It is 2 and a half inches above the edge of the rubber surround of the reversing light. The other letters, measuring accross from half way down the letter are 3 and a quarter inches apart. Sorry it is not a very good picture, ignore the reflections and you can see the reversing light bulb, which is LED and touches the glass and is in the centre

[Roy of the Rovers]

Might be easier in the long run to remove the tabs and bond them to the boot? No one will know and you will have wiggle room until it dries?

[Phil Nottingham]

I should imagine Rover had a jig to position them properly on the assembly lines - and that was worn out and distorted for the last ones "built".

[harvey]

Nov 23, 2019 17:26:01 GMT Phil Nottingham said:

I should imagine Rover had a jig to position them properly on the assembly lines

You can make one from an old bootlid. I had a mate who did panel repairs on P5 and P6 Rovers when they were new and he had jigs for both. They saved him hours every time he used them. If you make one just make sure to pick a bootlid where the letters are on straight......

[Sam Bee]

Good theory Harvey but mine was built 11 days from end of production and the letters are straight! Could be the jig moved part way through?

[alanpearl]

Thank you all for that. Went to take a look this morning and they are already stuck on! Yes, boot had no holes so we were guessing. Looks ok though - I will check with the dimensions provided.

[lagain]

Regrettably it has just come to light that one of the measurements for the coach lines is incorrect.
The measurement for the distance between trim and top of line should be 17mm and not 30mm

[Sam Bee]

As George say, 16 or 17 mm. I have done some research including consulting George but also David breen who measure several cars for me. That measurement is close to 5/8" which would make sence in pre-metris Britain. I took that action before having mine were applied.

Before and after photos.

[tarnowl]

Sept 30, 2023 19:35:14 GMT Sam Bee said:

As George say, 16 or 17 mm. I have done some research including consulting George but also David breen who measure several cars for me. That measurement is close to 5/8" which would make sence in pre-metris Britain. I took that action before having mine were applied.

Before and after photos.

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How difficult was it to find someone to paint these lines on?  There are fewer signwriters these days who have the skill and I am sure that many use tape!😱

[Phil Nottingham]

A hand held lining pen can be had which is filled with the thinned paint and drawn along to paint the line. Magnetic strips can be used to keep the line straight or aligned with the bodywork curves

[Sam Bee]

Mine were done by a chap at a restortion garage in East Grinstead, West Sussex.

[ricky8664]

I remember about 30 years ago when I first thought of restoring my saloon that there was a long thread of messages on here about how wide the side pinstripes were and how far below the waist trim and, for the coupe, how far from the gutter rail etc.

This seemed to go on for weeks with no consensus seeming to arise for any of the stripes.

Then a member mentioned that a friend of his or a relative used to work on the production line at Solihull (or wherever that were made). He said the guy who used to paint on the pinstripes would come around with a tin of various sized lining brushes, pick one out, seemingly at random, and paint on the lines freehand.

So the consensus seemed to be, there is no consensus or precise answer and as long as the pinstripes are not obviously out of position and look about right, that's probably ok!

After that I went out and bought a Breugler striping tool (I think that's what is was called), for when I'd got the car painted. 30 years later......

[dmaxwell]

There used to be a cable show in the US called Counts Custom (I think) about a the work of a restoration shop in Las Vegas and the work they did. The paint guy in the shop would do the most amazing pinstriping freehand! I am in awe of people with that much talent!!

David
California