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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2006 21:51:19 GMT
Would be grateful for any advice on the following: Have a 1966 mk111 3 litre manual with the straight gear lever which uses a remote shaft to connect with the gearbox.
Ball at base of gear lever where it fits into ring shaped end of the remote gear change shaft has fallen off leaving me unable to get any gears. (Diagram on page 6 section D of Rover workshop manual does show layout pf lever mechanism)
Is is possible to get a replacement ball? Could the job be done by improvising something that'll fit? If I improvise with something, does that risk messing up the reverse gear selector which is currently selected by depressing button in centre of gear lever which pushes a nylon rod down the centre of the lever which in turn puts out a small lever at the base of the lever and supposedly pushes the ball to one side).
Any advice on this repair would be much appreciated! Mark
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Sept 10, 2006 11:25:42 GMT
Try Wadhams - failing that David Green could probably supply a better secondhand one
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2006 17:01:17 GMT
Tried Wadhams & David Green - no joy at the mo. However, this morning I used a morris Oxford gromet which fits very well indeed and certainly works all the forward gears. This was the advice I got from people at yesterdays Beaulieu autojumble - in that you should use anything that fits. Reverse gear is more tricky and complicated as it also seems to throw out the rubber bush right at the front of the remote shaft when selected now. I think a series of bodges will be the answer and carry a pair of gloves when travelling incase it needs the strong arm fix. I can imagine being stuck in a supermarket carpark with no reverse gear.
Mark
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Post by PatMcCoy on Sept 10, 2006 17:07:23 GMT
Try Barry Kent His number is in the club mag Or Collectors Car Parts, 43/45 Sipson Way, Sipson, West Drayton, Middlesex, UB7 0DW Tel 020-8897 3774
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2006 12:15:07 GMT
A mate of mine reckons the nylon ball that's missing on my 3 litre gear lever base is also found on the P6's. If so that would widen the search opportunities quite considerably. Anyone confirm this?
Mark
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Post by harvey on Sept 22, 2006 14:23:37 GMT
Manual P6's do have a similar ball on the bottom of the gearlever, and it can fall off on those as well. It was never sold as a seperate part so to cure the problem meant fitting a new or s/h lever. I don't know whether any of the parts specialists would now have re manufactured just the ball that could then be glued on to the lever. JRW do sell repro gearlevers for the P6 so it might be worth having a word with them
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Post by dorsetflyer on Sept 22, 2006 18:25:29 GMT
Isn't the ball the same as used on the early Landrovers? if so they should be easy to source. Phil might know the answer to this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2006 19:55:24 GMT
Have finally done a repair of sorts using a machined down nylon ball from a bus door mechansim and a bit of superglue. Works fine and went for a celebratory drive which was fantastic in this weather. These motors really are something aren't they? Reverse gear however was still problematical - even after doing correct adjustments. The problem is with the self aligning bush. There's 2 of them, one each end of the remote shaft. The front one has basically perished and slides off the metal collar just short of the selector lever too easily, when reverse has been selected and you then go into first/second. So I'm just down to finding some new bushes which is a big step forward. Hopefully National Resto show next Sunday will get me something here.
Mark
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 4, 2006 11:28:38 GMT
The Land Rover stick is nothing like the P5 one as its direct acting
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Post by Ken Nelson on Oct 31, 2006 4:38:39 GMT
Hi Mark, Did you ever find a proper substitue for the two self aligning bushes in the remote shift housing? Mine also perished long ago and I am using two MGA A-arm bushings cobbled in place, but would be happy to find a better option if you know of one? Ken
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 31, 2006 16:45:15 GMT
There seems a demand for these although manual's are few and far between now but they all must be showing signs of wear/degradation as nylon will do eventually
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2006 0:24:31 GMT
Ken, I made a self aligning bush using a hardened rubber part I just found at an auto jumble - haven't a clue what it came off but I made a template and cut the rubber accordingly. I stuck the new rubber to the existing metal ring using super glue and its done the trick. Setting the selector rod after all this was a tad tricky - you do have to follow the book here. I guess it's a case of bodging to get over the lack of parts - manual P5's seem to be a rare beast anyway.
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Post by Ken Nelson on Nov 8, 2006 4:50:28 GMT
Thanks Mark, my homemade system is working for now, but it would be nice if there were proper bushes available to use. If any one knows of an interchangeable part it would be good to hear. Does the club ever have replacement bits made up? The Riley RM club has a spares secretary supplying many new or used parts which is wonderful for my 1954 RME in Michigan with no local parts sources. The Rover manual gearbox can't be too rare, since my $200 Rover P5 3 litre coupe came with a free parts car and both had manuals fitted. Ken
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 8, 2006 19:28:31 GMT
I agree the club should spend its excessive cash reserves on something useful that is genuinely unavailable - but its left to people like Glenn to take the risk with his sill trims.
The excuse this time was the club only spends it on MOT essential items - like what recently? Lack of gears is surely important to 3 Litre owners?
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Post by Ken Nelson on Apr 14, 2007 1:16:28 GMT
OK Lads, I got my gear lever working well enough to take my 3-litre manual coupe on the road with its new set of tires for the first time after about 15 years of ownership. Perseverance does pay off! What a sweet car to drive! I'm sure the V8 P5B has more pep, but the 6 cylinder seems plenty for luxury cruising, and I'm just enjoying the experience. The power steering brings back memories of my Dad's 1958 and 1960 Oldsmobiles with "one-finger" control and a whole lot of swaying; but I never thought it was a sports car when I bought it. I still have to finish up the interior, but it looks better all the time.
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Post by forest on Sept 18, 2007 23:22:25 GMT
Gear Lever re: replacement ball I have a 1967 Mark 111 with a manual transmission and I experience the same problem as Ken Nelson had. Have replacement balls become available since last year or does any of you know of any new or second hand gear lever with the required ball that would be available? R. Forest
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Sept 19, 2007 6:22:19 GMT
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Post by Ken Nelson on Sept 4, 2015 15:40:11 GMT
It's been a long time gone since last post on this, but I have found a solution to the manual gearbox lever. JR Wadhams now sell a refurbishment process to replace the nylon ball on the end of the gearlever ball, as well as selling replacement bushes for the selector rod (it needs two). I have purchased all these and the gearbox goes into gear much nicer now. Hopefully this is the end of the story for me, since the parts cost about £100 or so.
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Post by Warwick on Sept 11, 2015 2:53:56 GMT
That's good news Ken. This thread goes back to before I bought my car.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Sept 11, 2015 17:42:23 GMT
Well JW does take note and also looks in at forum from time to time so some posters should be careful what they say
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Post by Ken Nelson on Sept 15, 2015 3:57:15 GMT
Noted. I have no complaints about the parts or the price. It also included a new rubber boot to seal the transmission tunnel opening and everything fits without a problem. The shipping to USA adds to the total also. I've been working on getting these unobtainable parts for several years and am quite happy to have them available now.
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