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Post by Colin McA on Mar 17, 2010 17:29:30 GMT
Gentlemen, Today I had a meeting with the company who will be making the Lower B/C post trim panels for me. I have made some of the tooling required which they will have cast in Aluminum and the finished item will be a thick plastic. If you think that you may be interested in these then please drop me an email. I have got some interest so far but I have no idea what the total demand will be. I will post a few photos of the finished product, mean time here is some grotty ones. Colin
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Mar 17, 2010 19:28:05 GMT
Good idea - the 3 litre Coupes did have steel backings instead of cardboard - another Leyland cost cut!
Saloons stuck with steel
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Post by Warwick on Mar 18, 2010 1:24:44 GMT
Yes Phil, but was it top quality cardboard or just the cheap cereal packet stuff?
Glenn Colin, I'll have a look at mine tonight. Would you like me to enquire in Oz?
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Post by Colin McA on Mar 18, 2010 10:30:02 GMT
Warwick, did you mean to say Glenn??
I think the demand in nice warm dry countries will be next to zero.
I would be quite happy to send anywhere in the world.
Colin
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Mar 18, 2010 17:38:30 GMT
Cheap stuff as in BMC's and Fords
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Post by Warwick on Mar 18, 2010 23:35:07 GMT
Sorry Colin,
My brain must have automatically thought Glenn when trim production was mentioned. I didn't get a chance to look at mine. I think they will be okay, as I'm sure I would have noticed earlier, if not.
I'll let the clubs down here know.
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Post by glennr on Mar 19, 2010 0:05:23 GMT
Well done Colin for taking this on
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Mar 19, 2010 6:19:10 GMT
Well done I hope it works out Colin The Moquette covers are tricky little "b's" to make to get the stitch line down the corners then sticking them in the correct place with a contact adhesive Just a thought Colin make sure the plastic is of a type that will not melt using solvent based glue
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Post by Colin McA on Mar 19, 2010 9:03:49 GMT
I have the glue in mind.
The covers are something I can do but with such a variety of colours would be difficult and expensive for me to supply.
I am still waiting for the final tooling cost.
Colin
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Mar 19, 2010 10:02:51 GMT
I have been there on tooling Colin and the batch run so I hope you get a good quote When you say covers in various colours do you mean plastic colours or Moquette?
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Post by Colin McA on Mar 19, 2010 16:23:54 GMT
I was meaning the Moquette cover. As you know there are a few colours and can be hard to match unless re trimming the whole car.
I have some for my own car which I have used for the door pockets and the other moquette covered parts.
The actual panel I am having made will be black plastic. However it is possible to have them made in other colours, black is the cheapest.
Colin
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Post by Warwick on Mar 22, 2010 1:41:35 GMT
Mine appear to be okay Colin, but I've passed on the info to several clubs here, and to Dirk in the US. If anyone enquires I'll give them your e-mail address.
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Post by Colin McA on Mar 22, 2010 8:15:05 GMT
Thanks for that.
I expect a car which has lived in a dry country will be in good nick. I know quite a few Scottish cars which they are shot.
Colin
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Post by Colin McA on Mar 22, 2010 13:53:38 GMT
The company has come back with the final tooling costs.
To make it viable I would need to get a minimum of 20 pairs made up and and a pair would come out at £40 for the bare panels. The price does not include any mark up.
With regard to the Moquette cover, I am looking in to the costs of these. I would be happy to cover them at no cost if it was supplied by the buyer.
I am keen to get views on this from fellow owners. As I said previously I have managed to reduce the tooling costs already but other that ordering a few hundred there is not much more I can do.
All comments welcome but remember that this is not a profit generating exercise and there would be a hefty upfront cost by myself with no guarantee to even sell the first batch.
Colin
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 3, 2010 11:03:37 GMT
Just a quick update.
I have sent off some funds to get the project started.
Hopefully in a few weeks I will have a sample for approval.
Once I have the sample I will be checking the fit and some glues.
I will post up some photos once I have the part.
Colin
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Post by Warwick on Apr 3, 2010 12:31:46 GMT
Alas no response from anyone down here so far Colin.
I guess that means that part survives reasonably well here.
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 27, 2010 15:22:24 GMT
Gentlemen, Today the sample has arrived for my approval. To keep cost as low as possible they will be supplied to me un-trimmed as seen in the photo. I will trim it and trial fit to the car over the weekend but it all looks good. I will also try out a few glues to make sure that cover will stay fixed to them. More to follow. Colin
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Post by glennr on Apr 27, 2010 16:06:17 GMT
Ask John Wallett about glue's. He has a good knowledge of what is good and what isn't Oh, and btw. Well done
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2010 17:31:31 GMT
here , here , well done colin , you are an inspiration , dont know if i need this trim item personally but i do notice that the plastic bit at the door piller where my upper seatbelt bolt is has cracking on it.
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 27, 2010 18:45:48 GMT
I did price those parts up when I originally went to the manufacturers.
The upper B/C post trim is basically ABS plastic with a couple of 90* bends in it and stapled to either side of a piece of wood/hardboard. It would be in the region of £500 to tool up for it and they would be about £10 per item. Speaking to the Rover parts people the demand would not justify the expense.
I am running without them at present although I am on the lookout for some or some ABS plastic which I can modify to suit. You would get away with removing them and painting the area matt black or use some kind of fablon.
Colin
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 27, 2010 19:34:22 GMT
It does look good - I do not need any as my Mk2 has the steel versions which saloons although different stayed with. They seem very good value and superior to the cardboard ones Leyland fitted
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 27, 2010 21:49:49 GMT
Just to clarify once they have been approved the price for a pair will be around £40 which is the basic cost with the tooling cost spread out.
If anyone is interest in a set then please let me know as there will be a limited number produced initially.
I am still looking at the moquette covering.
Colin
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Post by Colin McA on May 4, 2010 9:19:32 GMT
Here is a few photos of the part trimmed. I am going to see the production manager and get a price for them to trim the final shape. I have managed to trim the part reasonably well but they have all the gear to do it faster and to a better standard than I can with my trusty swiss army knife. Colin
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Post by Colin McA on May 4, 2010 10:34:23 GMT
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on May 4, 2010 13:20:35 GMT
Looking GOOD
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