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Post by Warwick on Sept 1, 2011 3:59:06 GMT
I've just read of a DIY penetrating oil for loosening rusted-on nuts. It is claimed to be far superior to WD40, Penetrine, etc. Anyone else heard of this, or used it?
50/50 mix of ATF and acetone.
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Post by baconsdozen on Sept 1, 2011 7:35:05 GMT
WD40 is hopeless for freeing off seized fixings,coca cola,diesel or atf fluid work better. The best I've ever used in over fourty years of messing about nuts and bolts is PlusGas. If you can heat the assembly then squirt on PlusGas it gets drawn in as things cool and works just about every time.
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Post by p5tgc on Sept 1, 2011 10:00:46 GMT
Yes, Plus Gas was always my fluid of choice too, but it seems to be nigh on impossible to get these days, none of the big stores or factors stock it, many of their staff don't recognise the brand and the manufacturers don't have a web site.
It can be found on ebay and some independent sellers sites, but the cost of postage doubles the price!
Has anyone found a national outlet which stocks Plus Gas?
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Post by Pete Collins on Sept 1, 2011 12:57:46 GMT
Yes, Plus Gas was always my fluid of choice too, but it seems to be nigh on impossible to get these days, none of the big stores or factors stock it, many of their staff don't recognise the brand and the manufacturers don't have a web site. It can be found on ebay and some independent sellers sites, but the cost of postage doubles the price! Has anyone found a national outlet which stocks Plus Gas? Found this on another forum, hope it helps. It's made by:- English Abrasives & Chemicals Ltd. Doxey Road Stafford England ST16 1EA Tel: 01785 251288 Suggest you phone them for your nearest stockist!
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Post by guidedog on Sept 1, 2011 13:47:03 GMT
Who's a lucky boy, just rang my local auto shop and they keep it in stock
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Post by Warwick on Sept 2, 2011 2:31:38 GMT
I've only used diesel or oily kero (paraffin?) when WD40 doesn't work.
Never heard of Plus Gas. Strange name.
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Post by baconsdozen on Sept 2, 2011 6:45:20 GMT
You can buy it online at Amazon or possibly Ebay.Some larger motor factors stock it.A small can lasts a long while,you only need a small amount,put it on and leave it to soak. I've used it to free off seized engines,a squirt down the bores left overnight then some boiling ater poured in the block and unless its a basket case they'll normally move.
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Post by p5tgc on Sept 2, 2011 10:09:34 GMT
Warwick's comment made me think about how different cultures name products in different ways.
In the UK there was (is?) an ether based engine start spray called "Easy Start". In Australia, a similar product is called "Start Ya Bastard"!
Then of course there is the confusion over Durex and rubbers!
Back to loose nuts now!
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Post by Warwick on Sept 5, 2011 11:20:15 GMT
Funny you should mention this now. I was having the same conversation with my son last night after watching a recent episode of a local TV show. (The Gruen Transfer).
Durex was mentioned and I was explaining the confusion/hilarity it used to cause with British migrants when I was his age. It means nothing now. Back then Durex was the main brand of sticky tape and we used to refer to it as such. It seems to have vanished years ago and it's all just "sticky tape" now. I guess you called it Sellotape.
Until Nulon's "Start ya Bastard" came on the market, Aerostart had it all to itself for decades.
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Post by Chuck Berry on Oct 18, 2013 17:28:45 GMT
Just found this.... And after wiping away the tears from laughter. Yes I have used Easy-Start but was always told not to use it as it could do harm.... Mind you if you call it "Start Ya Bastard"! then you may have an excuse.
Plus Gas always swore by it (and at it). WD40 is good for most things including cleaning engine bays but I found that for freeing rusted nuts one has to leave it for a day or two before it works, whereas Plus Gas was almost instant.. BTW 'Frosts' keep it, but at a price
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Post by Simon H on Oct 18, 2013 22:56:01 GMT
If Easy Start is not available a dose of butane gas from an unlit blow torch works just as well. It's a sort of crude LPG conversion... I don't think these methods of starting do any harm. The notion that engines 'get used to it' is a myth. What is really happening is that the engine's state of tune has deteriorated and it will continue to do so while ever the likes of Easy Start are used instead of replacing plugs, points, coil, etc...
Simon H
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 15:29:17 GMT
Engines get used to it in the sense that using it causes bore wear as it washes the oil off the rings and bores and the knocking doesn't do them any good either. As said though,the engine is probably on its last legs anyway and soon gets to the stage that it gets harder and harder to get started. I worked on old diesel boat engines that used to have a reservoir in manifold filled with diesel that ignited as the engine was started sending a flame down inside the manifold to the cylinders. It looked pretty spectacular with the air filters off (especially if it was dark).
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Post by gingerbeer62 on Jan 22, 2015 21:21:39 GMT
Warwick's comment made me think about how different cultures name products in different ways. In the UK there was (is?) an ether based engine start spray called "Easy Start". In Australia, a similar product is called "Start Ya Bastard"! Then of course there is the confusion over Durex and rubbers! Back to loose nuts now! Reminded me of this " mock" advert - love it www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1YndLmbXQCheers Colin
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jan 22, 2015 21:31:53 GMT
I get mu Plus Gas off Ebay but where possible OxyA heating rarely fails. Acetone is hazardous to use
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Post by barryr on Jan 22, 2015 23:13:58 GMT
Plus gas is brilliant but 50/50 acetone and atf mix rules by all account. Check out demos on you tube!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 11:45:33 GMT
Ordinary diesel fuel is pretty good too.
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