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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 19:51:52 GMT
gearbox out it is then. easiest way?  ? Get someone else to do it... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D With the engine,i'd say. Well it was easier for me that way. Big Kev. Big Kev.... i say hey nonny NO! I'm getting an LT77 5 speed manual box. I think it would be nice to get double figures out of my fuel consumption  |
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Post by Kev on Nov 5, 2011 7:27:59 GMT
Hey,
The Audi bits seem a nice mod, good luck with it.
I had a LT box & pedal kit a few years ago when i was going to do mine but sold it on to a kit car builder.Wish i'd done it now though.
Take some pics if you can,i'm sure the "non purists" would be interested in the conversion.
As for double figures....i reckon your be booting it around more with a manual box...i know i would, just to hear the engine roar!
Big Kev.
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Post by Colin McA on Nov 5, 2011 8:55:32 GMT
Would the pedal box from a P4 fit? They are more plentiful in manual form.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 5, 2011 9:45:21 GMT
Only the very rare 105R Roverdrive auto has pendant pedals like a P5 so its only got the brake. On the manual P4's the pedals are the vintage type that sprout through the floor boards like S1 LR's and P2/P3's
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 13:46:54 GMT
Only the very rare 105R Roverdrive auto has pendant pedals like a P5 so its only got the brake. On the manual P4's the pedals are the vintage type that sprout through the floor boards like S1 LR's and P2/P3's OK... well i think the P4 question is a resounding NO! anybody got a number for david green? ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 13:54:13 GMT
Only the very rare 105R Roverdrive auto has pendant pedals like a P5 so its only got the brake. On the manual P4's the pedals are the vintage type that sprout through the floor boards like S1 LR's and P2/P3's OK... well i think the P4 question is a resounding NO! anybody got a number for david green? ?? THANK YOU TAKE FIVE MAG  |
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Post by allanthomas1 on Nov 5, 2011 20:39:04 GMT
I have just sold a manual P5 to David Green, in fact he is picking it up tomorrow. I converted my 3.5 rover to 5speed LT77 does make a good conversion, also improves fuel economy and makes a big difference on the motorway 80mph at 3000rpm against 66mph Auto at 3000rpm, I did the conversion on mine in two days, removing the auto box and installing the manual box, I can still drop this car down to 15mph in fifth gear amazing! I made sure I had all the parts before I started.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 9:22:55 GMT
I have just sold a manual P5 to David Green, in fact he is picking it up tomorrow. I converted my 3.5 rover to 5speed LT77 does make a good conversion, also improves fuel economy and makes a big difference on the motorway 80mph at 3000rpm against 66mph Auto at 3000rpm, I did the conversion on mine in two days, removing the auto box and installing the manual box, I can still drop this car down to 15mph in fifth gear amazing! I made sure I had all the parts before I started. You must be the person in Wales he spoke of yesterday then lol. Well i'm in the middle of removing the BW35 but i've had to stop due to concussion. The LT77 i've already got, same applies to a brand new clutch for it, as i might as well do that part now, rather than leave it a month or two and do it all again when the current clutch fails! Pedal box was my main concern, as V8's were only ever made as auto's, so finding one that would fit was daunting... however, because a P5B is a P5 with a different front sub frame, the pedal box from a P5 should fit like a glove..... in theory anyway. And......... i've just bagged an LPG system on ebay for £35.00! |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 6, 2011 10:03:56 GMT
A number have used the 3 Litre pedal box complete with hydraulics as it not a rod or cable set up like the P4 and other cars, but it fits on the bulkhead nothing to do with the subframe. You will need the Litre manual brake pedal too which matches the smaller clutch one as the auto one is too wide
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 6, 2011 11:07:57 GMT
I moved these to this section as it was way off the original post topic
good luck with finding the bit's needed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 13:10:37 GMT
A number have used the 3 Litre pedal box complete with hydraulics as it not a rod or cable set up like the P4 and other cars, but it fits on the bulkhead nothing to do with the subframe. You will need the Litre manual brake pedal too which matches the smaller clutch one as the auto one is too wide i was refering to the bulkhead... inside the car is nothing like a P6 for example... the inside of a P5 is the same as the inside of a P5B... which means it will fit. |
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Post by Warwick on Nov 7, 2011 3:11:38 GMT
A friend down here has the P5 pedal unit in his P5B Coupe, with a Toyota Supra 5-speed and Rover 5-litre. Goes quite well.
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Post by allanthomas1 on Nov 7, 2011 18:42:16 GMT
I bet it does.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 8, 2011 9:30:23 GMT
And......... i've just bagged an LPG system on ebay for £35.00! Just a word of warning on the SH LPG system! The tank has to have a 10 year certificate, also you will need to have the car inspected and a certificate given for the installation, then you have to send all this off to the DVLA to get the car dual fuel registered also your insurance will be invalid until you get the correct documents. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 16:58:52 GMT
And......... i've just bagged an LPG system on ebay for £35.00! Just a word of warning on the SH LPG system! The tank has to have a 10 year certificate, also you will need to have the car inspected and a certificate given for the installation, then you have to send all this off to the DVLA to get the car dual fuel registered also your insurance will be invalid until you get the correct documents. walking before running, i need to get the gearbox conversion done before i can even think about looking into the lpg stuff... though i am glad i found a system thats (ahem), cost effective. |
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Post by mcgill on Nov 18, 2011 10:48:41 GMT
Just a word of warning on the SH LPG system! The tank has to have a 10 year certificate, also you will need to have the car inspected and a certificate given for the installation, then you have to send all this off to the DVLA to get the car dual fuel registered also your insurance will be invalid until you get the correct documents. walking before running, i need to get the gearbox conversion done before i can even think about looking into the lpg stuff... though i am glad i found a system thats (ahem), cost effective. £35 does sound cheap for LPG system,even by Ebay standards,Thats alot of kit. Was it complete for v8? Heads up for after youve done your box, As John says,even if the kit is fitted 100% correct and up to spec,if the tank is older than ten years old,it will not get a ticket. So wheres the tank going? Anywhere behind the axle and youll need new springs,great big heavy duty whadhams ones.(does anything flatten the jacked up 70s look whadams springs?). Looking at your kit,throw all pipework,not just for saftey and peice of mind,but not cost effective. Now you have a saftey shut off filter,you ,ll wanting to change filter,and youll wondering is the shut of valve shutting and opening correctly,but for the cost,you may as well get a new unit. The vaporiser.You could have it all fitted 100%,then spend hours upon hours and the more hours,fiddling with it ,fitting electronic ignition,new leads,plugs....and it could be a problem with the vapouriser.You can buy repair kits,but there again,the newer designed ones are not that expensive either. Are the tank valves working as they should,multivalve or four hole?Is the vent valve expelling when it should,are the soleniods,switching fully?So you get new ones of them... So best ways,youve got a useable su mixers,a switch,and a filler....... "the money and time spent poncing around with lpg,the endless chase of the perfect grail.,,,,,,,just use the money for petrol,your not going to have it long enough" quoted from....Book of Socrates |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 16:51:28 GMT
Seems like a lot of work to me and would probably make the car almost unsaleable.
Personally, I wouldn't fancy carrying a potential bomb at the rear of a car not built to modern standards of safety.
Same "Y" bushes to hold together all that weight. Would they be up to the job?!
Each to their own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 20:26:53 GMT
Seems like a lot of work to me and would probably make the car almost unsaleable. Personally, I wouldn't fancy carrying a potential bomb at the rear of a car not built to modern standards of safety. Same "Y" bushes to hold together all that weight. Would they be up to the job?! Each to their own. This is not a car that is going to be up for sale, this is my own personal car, so i dont care about its sellability factors. I'm actually thinking about a new LPG system from wadhams though, 385 quid, specifically for SU carbs. Any road, the pedals are in, but i didnt have a spigot bearing, which i do now have, so the engine and manual box are going in on saturday  After that, for my next trick... the rear axle from a jensen interceptor, for discs all round, and better top end handeling |
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Post by allanthomas1 on Nov 22, 2011 1:31:27 GMT
I was thinking about LPG for my car, advice received to get a good set up was to throw the S U carbs in the bin and fit a down draft carb, also change to electronic ignition system and advance and retard control box. Looking at the cost and the fact that the 5speed box has increased the fuel consumption, I decided not to go ahead, I suppose it depends on how many miles a year you intend doing. Have thought about fitting a set of carbs from RPI any views or thoughts on this welcome. has any body fitted set from them to their car?
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Post by enigmas on Nov 22, 2011 11:20:03 GMT
LPG is a great 'green' fuel that's both easy on the environment and on your engine. There's also negligible wear and a very long lived life span (2 to 3 times that of petrol as there's no carbon grinding away at cyls & bearings)
Oil stays cleaner much longer...after 20 years I can still see clean alloy inside the rocker cover when I remove the filler cap. Remember the dreaded V8 Rover sludge...well what's that!... You won't ever see it on LPG.
The system when correctly fitted has more safety features than a P5 ever had on petrol. You can keep your SU's for appearance and just use them as a throttle body. Electronic ignition and quality spark plug leads are sensible upgrades and relatively cheap today. These 2 items will make a difference whether on petrol or LPG.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 4:03:07 GMT
I run an SD1 5 speed in mine and although it romps along nicely at 80 plus it hasnt helped economy (well it was never going to be good)....should of left it auto as in my opinion it does'nt suit it.
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Post by allanthomas1 on May 16, 2012 20:53:37 GMT
I put a SD1 box into my car because I use it for towing, although I would tend to agree with you that the auto set up does suit the car. Some road testers did criticise Rover at the time for not fitting this car with a manual gear box from the factory. I think the best overall Rover to have is a Mk3 manual with overdrive, this set up does give the Mk3 a better cruising speed. I also feel the 3litre is better engineered than the V8.
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