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Post by stantondavies on Nov 6, 2013 23:14:57 GMT
Has anyone fitted a splash guard between the rear and inner wings to stop crud thrown by the wheel from collecting? I have fitted mudflaps before, but they are problematical and lasted weeks before snapping off. In any case, they do not stop mud collecting in bumper corners and rear valance as it still flies over them.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 7, 2013 19:17:13 GMT
I agree mudflaps are a waste of time and a menace unless you drive on flat straight roads 100% of the time. Some have tried it and 2 have posted it on here somewhere.
It is a good idea but for some reason I have never found the time to try it - it will save the rear tops/the back lights and the inner wings but I fitted really close fitting arch liners to the front wings o my wife's Mini 25 years ago and the edges of the wings NOT protected have rusted through. I will have to buy a whole wing and front panel to get the smallish repair section and I am not convinced whether patching will be satisfactory compared to changing the whole panel as time spent will be almost the same.
Whether I am bothered 25 years from now is also a factor?
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Post by stantondavies on Nov 8, 2013 0:53:26 GMT
Thanks, Phil, that's interesting. What material did you use for the guard on your Mini? I am thinking in terms of a flexible plastic, pop riveted onto the curved lip on the inner wing. It is the sourcing of suitable material that is stumping me at the moment.
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Post by Steve P5b on Nov 8, 2013 8:42:15 GMT
Has anyone fitted a splash guard between the rear and inner wings to stop crud thrown by the wheel from collecting? I have fitted mudflaps before, but they are problematical and lasted weeks before snapping off. In any case, they do not stop mud collecting in bumper corners and rear valance as it still flies over them. I have seen this done both front and rear using plastic under wing protectors from a late model car ( rover I think)modified to fit. Speaking with the owner he said they had been fitted for years and gave no trouble. They were bonded to the outer wing with seam sealer not screws. They were fitted to this car, sadly this is the only picture I can find, not much help
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 11:37:26 GMT
I seem to remember you could buy them for various cars some years back. I think made by a firm called Lokari ?.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 8, 2013 18:38:54 GMT
Yes the Mini's were Lokari - black moulded stiff plastic -thicker than modern cars stuff and quite well made which of course is why they are obsolete and NLA
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Post by norvin on Nov 8, 2013 19:04:29 GMT
A friend of mine used rubber backed carpet tiles as mudflaps and they worked quite well.
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Post by stantondavies on Nov 9, 2013 23:12:50 GMT
Thank you Gentlemen, some interesting points there. Lokari seem to be still producing inner "fenders" in aluminium and the P5 is listed (though not the mini) at a price, €150! Food for thought.
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Post by Ken Nelson on Jun 30, 2014 2:15:56 GMT
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Post by enigmas on Jun 30, 2014 11:32:40 GMT
Where do you guys drive that causes mud to be such an issue? My preference is for surfaced roads and the garden hose afterwards if mud is involved. Most areas that I find cause issues on cars are panels that often enclose a hidden space. The front guard on my ZB Magnette has a factory panel that (over time) 'contains' road debris over the leading edge of the sill panel, which eventually corrodes through. I cut off the lower 2" from this panel so the debris wouldn't collect or build up. The air stream also keeps it dry and ventilated. I'm not certain that enclosing a space/cavity is the way to go as trapped moisture then becomes an issue, especially in a cold and wet climate.
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Post by stantondavies on Jun 30, 2014 22:09:57 GMT
Fair observations. Speaking for myself, I drive a lot on narrow country roads with muddy edges and tow a caravan onto farmers' fields. Mud collects inevitably. A splash guard should prevent mud accumulating whilst air should still circulate as the bottom would be open to the air.
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Post by petrolhead allan on Jul 1, 2014 7:30:04 GMT
I recently bought a set of Lokari splash guards, from David Green via Ebay. I've yet to fit them (they're on the list of jobs to do!) but the instructions specifically mention fitting them so that there is a clear air flow over the inside, so that any trapped moisture can dry out.
The under wing areas on my car have been repaired, de-rusted, painted, Waxoyled and undersealed etc. but I like the idea of keeping the elements away from all my good work.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that the huge space under the rear wings looks rather 'unfinished' with its views right through to the rear behind the wheels?
I'll post some pictures 'before' and 'after' when I have fitted them.
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Post by enigmas on Jul 1, 2014 11:07:07 GMT
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Post by gilbern on Jul 1, 2014 13:02:01 GMT
Hi, to help input on this subject:
I have fitted a set of front & rear Lokari inner "fenders" in aluminium. They cost €150 plus delivery per set, ordered direct from Lokari; Munich, Germany, made to order. I fitted them 2 -3 months ago. They are very well made, easy to fit with cut outs for the rear wing mounts etc. I finished these inner wheel arches in ally grey etch primer & black stone guard to tone down the new aluminium look. You now have to look hard to see them fitted.
My personal thoughts were the Euro anti rust investment is a lot less hassle than getting my welder out in the future? I want to use my P5b saloon in all weathers & drove last Saturday through massive thunderstorms & rivers of water on the A3 to the Goodwood event.
"Lokari" : They are worth the money (to me) & the minor hassle to fit (they come complete with instructions & fittings.)
Regards Julian
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Post by Ken Nelson on Jul 3, 2014 15:23:41 GMT
I agree with Julian. I had to replace all 4 fenders due to rust caused by mud and debris packed in the upper edge from lack of protection. Ken
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