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Post by norvin on Apr 6, 2014 16:09:54 GMT
Yes at last I have splashed out on a set of new carpets from JRW there is quite some work to fit them more then I thought but I have two off cuts of carpet about 15"+10" inches and I am not quite sure what they are for I can only think it might be to cover the brackets that are bolted to the tunnel which the seats at the rear are bolted to but it would seem much to thick for that as mine are covered in moquette which looks original, can anyone say what it might be for.  This is the off cuts that came with the carpet set.  Here is the seat support which is bolted to the tunnel with the original moquette. |
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Post by Steve P5b on Apr 6, 2014 17:56:34 GMT
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Post by norvin on Apr 6, 2014 18:36:55 GMT
Thanks, I think I will just give up.
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tonyl
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Post by tonyl on Apr 7, 2014 15:24:54 GMT
Have the rear carpets got the foot roll? Could these be a couple of pieces to roll up and stuff inside them to add stiffness?
Not relevant to your problem, but a question or two about JRW carpets. Are they like the originals, with the thick underfelt backing and properly finished edges? Does the driver's carpet have the correct design with cutouts for the throttle, dipswitch, etc?
Tony
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Post by norvin on Apr 8, 2014 18:04:22 GMT
Have the rear carpets got the foot roll? Could these be a couple of pieces to roll up and stuff inside them to add stiffness? Not relevant to your problem, but a question or two about JRW carpets. Are they like the originals, with the thick underfelt backing and properly finished edges? Does the driver's carpet have the correct design with cutouts for the throttle, dipswitch, etc? Tony Thanks for your reply yes the rear carpets do have the roll and look as if it is cardboard so maybe you are correct but have been and had a look but they are not long enough to go the full length of the roll, yes these carpets are well made with all cut outs on drivers side, all edges that show are finished with cloth edging they are also the correct colour. |
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Post by norvin on Apr 9, 2014 18:40:33 GMT
I am having trouble fitting the new JRW carpets over the prop tunnel it does not seem long enough and I can not understand what the cut out is for, the carpets I had In there were not correct and had been made to fit so are not really much help.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 9, 2014 19:29:43 GMT
I am having trouble fitting the new JRW carpets over the prop tunnel it does not seem long enough and I can not understand what the cut out is for, the carpets I had In there were not correct and had been made to fit so are not really much help. On the right norvin a bought carpet I fitted for a friend it was a terrible "made as the originals" fit  from the ones I have seen they are usually too small somewhere. The one on the left is one I copied from an original carpet.    |
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Post by norvin on Apr 9, 2014 19:52:18 GMT
Thanks John I know you made your own carpets, they look as if they go right up under the back seats.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 9, 2014 20:42:02 GMT
They stop where they should norvin right in the crease  I hope you sort the problem! it's annoying I am sure  I have done two sets of bought carpets neither fitted as they should or were backed as they should be! perhaps they haven't got the sewing machines with a big enough lift! The binding on the edges is it stitched right through the underlay as well as the carpet? or just the carpet with the underlay stuck on? |
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Post by tonyl on Apr 10, 2014 5:41:14 GMT
The last photo above shows that the brackets either side of the heater/speaker control are covered with carpet, which I think answers your original question. My car has its original carpets but domestic issues will prevent me having a decent look until Friday pm. I'll check then and see if I can take a close up pic.
Tony
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Post by norvin on Apr 10, 2014 7:51:43 GMT
Thanks John and Tony I am going to have another go today, I have also had a problem trying to recover the seat brackets on the tunnel,but these carpets are JRW so not a cheap set.
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Post by Welsh Warlock on Apr 10, 2014 9:24:31 GMT
I didn't get any extra bits of carpet to cover the seat brackets when I bought a set from JRW about 10 years ago.
I bought a couple of small bits of identical carpet (silver) from Woolies in Market Deeping a couple of weeks ago and have recovered one side. Just got to take the other seat out to do the other side now.
I'm going to take the whole interior out soon to recolour it so will do it then.
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Post by norvin on Apr 10, 2014 19:07:40 GMT
Fitting these carpets is not as easy as I thought the tunnel is hard to get a tight fit and the centre console is a nightmare, the tunnel carpet at the back has a raw edge but I suppose it should go under the seat trim but does not seem long enough, you can see what I mean in the photos.  Tunnel carpet.  Testing the fitting!  That is the carpet with the raw edge should go under trim ?  Close up of that raw edge. |
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Post by markymark on Apr 10, 2014 20:07:37 GMT
Hi,
I did this job last year and made the same mistake if I recall correctly. The tunnel carpet goes the other way round. The unfinished edge is covered by the centre console.
Cheers,
Mark
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 10, 2014 20:11:32 GMT
Brian I can see where you are struggling is the rear carpet one piece it certainly looks like they aren't stitched/made as the original design? I am showing you my pictures "not because I made them" but they are a painstaking exact copy of the original carpets and not made the easy way! it was for me a few days work to get them correct, and as I said I have fitted 2 sets of bought carpets and neither were made as they should be and they didn't fit!  |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 10, 2014 20:21:43 GMT
Hi, I did this job last year and made the same mistake if I recall correctly. The tunnel carpet goes the other way round. The unfinished edge is covered by the centre console. Cheers, Mark It's worth a try Mark but he will have a large surplus to the rear, I think the idea is you fit the carpets and not the carpets are made to fit |
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Post by norvin on Apr 11, 2014 7:50:38 GMT
Thanks John if I turn the tunnel carpet around it is miles short but the cut out is for the centre console? yes the back carpet is one piece did you glue your carpet to the tunnel John? my trouble is that my carpets were not rover carpets but just some made to fit.
Thanks Mark but will not fit the other way around.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 11, 2014 8:13:05 GMT
Hi Brian no the carpets aren't glued to the tunnel there are/should be 3 layers, the carpet is attached to a backing that I don't know the name of sorry! but you can sort of mold it around the tunnel and that sits on under felt which is 1/2" thick, so the complete tunnel cover is quite hefty in thickness.
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Post by norvin on Apr 11, 2014 15:59:00 GMT
Thanks John yes there is thick under felt.
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Post by cyf on Apr 11, 2014 16:13:10 GMT
I cant believe it... As for my bumpers. You bought a carpet set from a well know supplier of Rover part and it didn't fit properly, I can't understand
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Post by norvin on Apr 11, 2014 18:10:06 GMT
Hi cyf, they will fit ok it's just the tunnel carpet that seems the problem but are the saloon and coupe different in the Rover parts catalogue the tunnel carpet parts number is given for a saloon and coupe. I had a look back at the photos you posted of the coupe that you broke for spares in 2011? and it had an ashtray which sat on the tunnel outboard of the seats.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 11, 2014 19:52:59 GMT
Brian if you look at the first pics I posted you will see the cut out at the rear for the Coupe ashtray, looking at the front of yours is that a cut out? the rear of yours looks like the front of my coupe carpet??? Coupe carpets not a Saloon which would make sense I think |
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Post by markymark on Apr 12, 2014 9:29:24 GMT
Just went and had a look at my tunnel carpet. The cut out is definitely at the back where the ashtray is.
If when you turn it round it's too short I would defo say you have been supplied with the wrong carpet. It's probably intended for a coupe.
Cheers,
Mark
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Post by norvin on Apr 12, 2014 10:40:41 GMT
Thanks mark I think It is for a coupe as I have a saloon which does not have the ashtray, but JRW list the carpet as separate items for saloon and coupe but only one for the tunnel it is not listed as for a saloon or coupe.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 12, 2014 14:16:04 GMT
Well he got that one wrong  |
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from the ones I have seen they are usually too small somewhere.
I have done two sets of bought carpets neither fitted as they should or were backed as they should be! perhaps they haven't got the sewing machines with a big enough lift!
