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Post by achandler on Jun 21, 2014 20:52:00 GMT
When I got my P5B it had been repainted, and I have no complaints about the quality of the work, but the sills are now finished in the same colour as the main bodywork.
Repainting the sill, satin black, is no great problem, but it occurred to me that I am not sure whether the black should continue on the bottom of the door shuts and around (or under) the s/s sill plates.
Could someone, with original paintwork, open their car door and let me know?
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Post by barryr on Jun 21, 2014 21:23:02 GMT
I believe it's meant to go up to the chrome sill trim. Original trims were flush with the top of the sill but many have been changed! Mine was the same.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 22, 2014 5:47:36 GMT
When I got my P5B it had been repainted, and I have no complaints about the quality of the work, but the sills are now finished in the same colour as the main bodywork. Repainting the sill, satin black, is no great problem, but it occurred to me that I am not sure whether the black should continue on the bottom of the door shuts and around (or under) the s/s sill plates. Could someone, with original paintwork, open their car door and let me know? The sill trims are 5-6mm from the top edge and the satin black should finish just below the top of the trim Glenn who remakes them did a bit on the forum if you search back a couple of years  |
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Post by Warwick on Jun 22, 2014 7:44:40 GMT
Not sure about the (Cill) in brackets in the thread title, but if it's a query about spelling, then your initial assumption was correct and the spelling is the same as for window sill.
It carries over from the door sill of a building's doorway, which seems to have disappeared from common usage to be replaced by door step, or tread.
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Post by achandler on Jun 23, 2014 0:41:18 GMT
Although straying from the subject, the reason why I used both spellings was that I find, here in New Zealand, both are used, and the Oxford English Dictionary allows both spellings for the same item.
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Post by Warwick on Jun 24, 2014 3:03:23 GMT
Now that's very interesting. I've never seen that spelling used before. I've just checked an old 1946 Oxford dictionary and it doesn't list Cill. When I Googled it I was taken to Wiktionary and that entry says that cill is the more usual spelling of sill when applied to an underwater horizontal member such as at the base of a lock gate in a canal or river. Very strange. Which edition of the OED lists both?
Sorry to stay off topic, but I find words and their origins fascinating.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 10:06:02 GMT
Does the club have any underwater horizontal members I wonder? Cilly question probably.
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Post by achandler on Jun 24, 2014 11:16:38 GMT
Sorry, Warwick, I quoted the wrong Dictionary - mine is actually a Chambers English Dictionary.
It would appear that the black paintwork should go up to very slightly below the top of the s/s strip, and not to the bottom of the doors. Which is fine, if I am going to repaint the sills in the correct colour it makes sense to try and put it in the correct place.
Never could find the post by Glenn giving the details despite a great deal of trawling through years of entries, but I will go with what I have been told.
Many thanks
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Post by Warwick on Jun 25, 2014 3:19:26 GMT
Does the club have any underwater horizontal members I wonder? Cilly question probably. Yes - John Wallett; but only if things go horribly wrong with his latest non-automotive project. |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 25, 2014 5:04:56 GMT
Does the club have any underwater horizontal members I wonder? Cilly question probably. Yes - John Wallett; but only if things go horribly wrong with his latest non-automotive project. No it's still above water Warwick  |
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Post by GlennR on Jun 25, 2014 5:47:19 GMT
When I got my P5B it had been repainted, and I have no complaints about the quality of the work, but the sills are now finished in the same colour as the main bodywork. Repainting the sill, satin black, is no great problem, but it occurred to me that I am not sure whether the black should continue on the bottom of the door shuts and around (or under) the s/s sill plates. Could someone, with original paintwork, open their car door and let me know? The second photo shows George Parker's (Lagain) P5B Coupe.   |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 25, 2014 7:02:41 GMT
The same barn find coupe at David Greens I took the coach line info from the sill trims were set below the top of the sill by 1/4" and the satin black was just below the top of the trim and for sure that car had never been touched |
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Post by lagain on Jun 28, 2014 18:15:26 GMT
Nice to see pictures of my car (again !) On the other set of pictures the chrome trim looks as if it is slightly low. The chrome trim should be level with the edge of the sill, not below it. At the back the trim must be flush with the end of the sill. When I first had my car nearly 40 years ago I removed the 'kick plates' and drilled holes in the tops of the sills. I then filled them with Waxoyl, with a container under the front to catch the Waxoyl when it ran out - not very much did. A few weeks later my car had been parked in the sun and after a 15 mile run the sides both had a layer of Waxoyl ! However, it worked and the sill trims are still on the original clips. I repainted my sills in Satin Black some years ago and have had a problem with the underside chipping, each year I carefully touch them up, but last winter I covered the underside with 3M protection film. It works well on my motor bike, so should do on the car. one roll was enough when cut in half. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-clear-paint-protection-vinyl-film-sticker-Clear-Vinyl-/251179870959?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3a7b7caaef |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 28, 2014 19:05:12 GMT
Must be a few differences George  My sills and clip holes are original as was the barn find of 30 years ++ and they were/are both below the sill edge the original one in Glens info is the nearest to the "totally untouched" bar find which was sadly totally rotten but was a great reference If you look at the illustrated drawing in the WS manual the trim is below the sill edge and not flush with the rear the front looks a bit long I did the same with my sills but I used old engine oil and diesel found a place down the fen and let it drain  it didn't mater then  |
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Post by barryr on Jun 28, 2014 22:25:54 GMT
I'm just finishing my off side sill. I bought new sill trims from Mr Reeve and having welded in new outers sills am returning them to a stock look unlike the all body colour with welded patches they were before.
Because I'm an average home restorer I want to be able to match in any stone chips in future. I'm using dinitrol 445 drohnex anti stone chip as the satin black. It has the advantage that it is satin black!, sprays thickly from an aerosol and has a strong plasticised kind of finish. Time will tell!
I've set my trims a bit down from the top edge and I made a gauge to run down the sill so I could mark both sides evenly. I painted the body colour first then set the masking tape just above the holes I drilled for the clips which gives the break in the black John described just below the top of the trim.
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Post by achandler on Jul 2, 2014 20:49:01 GMT
Very many thanks to all for the advise. The sills on my P5B are now resplendent in satin black with the top about 3mm below the top of the s/s strip. Looks good, though after a few years of New Zealand gravel roads they may not be quite so flash!
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Post by enigmas on Jul 3, 2014 7:22:48 GMT
What...no pictures!  |
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Post by achandler on Jul 11, 2014 1:35:48 GMT
Sorry, the weather has been so bad out here over the last few weeks and the light is too poor to try and get a photo in the garage. Will try and put one on the forum when I can get the car out again.
Now for the coachline!!!
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Post by p5bdownunder on Jul 11, 2014 6:11:02 GMT
Sorry, the weather has been so bad out here over the last few weeks and the light is too poor to try and get a photo in the garage. Will try and put one on the forum when I can get the car out again. Now for the coachline!!! Good luck with that in the dark....!! |
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Post by p5nij on Jul 16, 2014 15:44:10 GMT
When I get my Coupe back from the garage tomorrow (it passed its MOT with no advisaries - phew!) I'll get a photo or two of the holes that have been drilled in the sills to accept the mounting clips. May or may not help but I thought it's worth a punt |
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