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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 20, 2015 22:14:16 GMT
I am restoring my Rover p5b coupe and would be grateful for some pictures of how the rear wing to d post joint should look. There is a big gap on mine which I know will be partly filled by a rubber seal but it still looks wrong despite lining up with the doors. Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received. Many thanks in anticipation. Dave
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 20, 2015 23:21:54 GMT
Absolutely loads of pics on here - there is a gap but everything will line up with a bit of fettling. I prefer to leave out the rubber. The rubber Rover used is not closed cell and soaks up salty water like a sponge. Air movement allows it to dry out and can be cleaned and rewaxed etc
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 7:38:31 GMT
Thanks Phil, I must be searching in the wrong place as I still can't find anything. Mine can't be far out but I want to be sure before I commit to painting. I have a half inch gap between the edge of the rear wing and d post and as it is would allow muck to get through.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 21, 2015 9:14:36 GMT
Thanks Phil, I must be searching in the wrong place as I still can't find anything. Mine can't be far out but I want to be sure before I commit to painting. I have a half inch gap between the edge of the rear wing and d post and as it is would allow muck to get through. Have you fitted the rubber seal between the D post and the wing Dave? |
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 9:54:32 GMT
No John, no I haven't fitted the seal. I think things need a bit of fettling but would appreciate a photo to see what it should look like. The original wings were taken off some time ago and I am fitting one new old stock one and another good used one. The d posts have been repaired to the original shape. My feeling is the doors need pulling in at the bottom to line everything up. I have scoured the Internet which has provided some good photos but can't find any close up of this area. All help appreciated. Regards. Dave
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 21, 2015 10:10:37 GMT
No John, no I haven't fitted the seal. I think things need a bit of fettling but would appreciate a photo to see what it should look like. The original wings were taken off some time ago and I am fitting one new old stock one and another good used one. The d posts have been repaired to the original shape. My feeling is the doors need pulling in at the bottom to line everything up. I have scoured the Internet which has provided some good photos but can't find any close up of this area. All help appreciated. Regards. Dave Sorry I cant help at the moment Dave mine is under wraps, there is quite a gap between the wing and the D post. If you have changed the sill as well as the D post it may account for the door errors assuming the doors haven't been repaired? and are the original ones? |
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 10:38:21 GMT
Thanks John. I am going o post a few pics to illustrate where I am so that I can get an opinion from the various experts on the forum. Just need my daughter to show me how to used photobucket! Cheers.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 21, 2015 14:23:55 GMT
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 21, 2015 15:02:06 GMT
I think Dave wants a picture of a wing in position Phil  |
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 16:08:54 GMT
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Post by petervdvelde on Feb 21, 2015 16:11:55 GMT
Dave, Attached a picture of the rear wing gap on my project car. I haven't test fitted the rubber yet. I had a look at my daily P5B and the cap is more or less identical but there is no rubber fitted  Peter |
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 16:12:29 GMT
All, My daughter has walked me through how to post images and hopefully you can see these photos of progress to date ( above post). I am in the process of trial fitting the rear wing and i think the gap between the rear wing edge and d post catch box is too big. I would appreciate the benefit of your collective wisdom. Regards. Dave
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Post by petervdvelde on Feb 21, 2015 16:14:36 GMT
Dave,
Looks good the work done on your car!
Peter
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Post by davethev8nut on Feb 21, 2015 16:15:36 GMT
Peter, Thanks once again. I am suitably reassured by your picture. I take it that the rubber seal that I have on order from Wadhams will fill the void. Cheers. Dave
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 17:29:33 GMT
Peter, Thanks once again. I am suitably reassured by your picture. I take it that the rubber seal that I have on order from Wadhams will fill the void. Cheers. Dave Here's the o/s on my car. The seal is in place:  |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 21, 2015 17:31:55 GMT
1 With and 2 without seal
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Post by cowley2325 on Feb 21, 2015 17:51:29 GMT
Many thanks Gents much appreciated. I now know how it should look. Cheers. Dave
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 10:52:59 GMT
Daft question.
Is it possible to fit the seal with the wing in place?. Mine seem to be missing (didn't realise until I read this post) The gap is quite small (just get a finger tip in). Presumably from earlier comments the foam/rubber should be closed cell type to stop holding water,is that right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 14:29:50 GMT
Daft question. Is it possible to fit the seal with the wing in place?. Mine seem to be missing (didn't realise until I read this post) The gap is quite small (just get a finger tip in). Presumably from earlier comments the foam/rubber should be closed cell type to stop holding water,is that right? I'm trying to remember how I fitted the rubber after removing the rear wings for repairs 25 years ago but I can't but it was certainly put in place BEFORE I refitted the wing. Any rubber in that area is going to be a rust trap but that depends on whether you use your car in all weathers and whether water gets through the gap when you use the car in rain or when you're washing it underneath in the nooks and crannies. As you know, that area of the body is a terrible rust trap unless kept clear of all debris. You could just get some dense black rubber and shape it to fit the gap to make a neat finish and stop any water getting through on to the D post or the door shut faces and cards. |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 25, 2015 18:47:07 GMT
I really cannot see what the purpose of this rubber is apart from appearance. Another Rover attention to detail.
Its not to reduce noise, draft or what I thought it may be to keep the D post clean. I have tried both ways and rust forms more quickly with it than without it and the D post cleanliness or noise level/draft is not affected at all
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Post by petervdvelde on Feb 26, 2015 12:08:50 GMT
i agree with Phil. Water cannot reach the door cards as there are door seals to prevent it. The rubbers are not fitted to my daily Coupe and there is no dirt visible on the D post of my car and it has seen a fair bit of rain and snow during the previous months.
Peter
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 20:20:39 GMT
Although I agree with the earlier comments I still think the gap between wing and the arch looks unsightly. I agree using a large spongy rubber seal will just trap water and help rusting but............... I made a thin seal from closed cell rubber that fills the gap,can be simply be pulled out downwards and sitting on sealer shouldn't trap water.When I've cleaned up the sealer I think it will look better than a gap and I've too much time on my hands anyway..  |
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Post by Dr Bob on May 12, 2017 0:12:25 GMT
Bought the seals for the rear wings from wadhams- how do they fit?
Can someone advise if they are pinched between the wing with a piece showing? Or are they glued in place behind the lip of the wing out of site from the d post?
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