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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 11:03:58 GMT
My 1970 built car was never fitted with Hazards and I thought it would be a sensible update as a safety feature and I will now be able to stop and park anywhere!! I used the aftermarket Lucas "push-pull" type and it all fitted in quite well thanks to the helpful advice & guidance of Phil Nottingham. It was a useful experience for me as I was out of my comfort zone but a worthwhile exercise. I've got a few tips if anyone else is considering installing the unit.  |
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Post by norvin on Jul 26, 2015 11:37:23 GMT
I fitted mine a few years ago almost the same as yours but my control will flash with the hazards. I bought mine from ebay for I think about £20, funny thing is since fitting them I can not think of ever using them but as you say well worth doing.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 11:46:39 GMT
Mine's got a bulb behind the pull and has an audible click.
The main reason I fitted it was in case the car "fails to proceed" as there's no other way to tell motorists that you haven't just stopped to annoy them! Hazards are accepted as meaning 1) Thank you for letting me merge in, 2) I have authority to park totally inappropriately, 3) I'm in trouble 4) I've broken down etc etc.
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Post by Colin McA on Jul 26, 2015 14:31:41 GMT
Great upgrade and one of the first I did to my car. The panel under the tool tray was my preferred location aswell. The panel already has cut outs for them and looks less of an after thought then the screw on brackets.  I have used them to great effect on top of the Shap summit on a moonless night. Also handy for checking all the indicator bulbs are working in one go. Colin |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jul 26, 2015 18:31:35 GMT
Strange never seen any panels with the hole already drilled apart from the one for the HRW switch and even some of those did not have it.
I have fitted them in that position as well
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Post by Colin McA on Jul 26, 2015 21:49:15 GMT
It has been a few years but my panel either had the cut out or pilot hole for them. I did use a step drill bit to open it up for the larger panel nut on the switch I had.
I might have one in the garage to look at but there is not much chance I drilled the hole without a guide pre-drilled.
Colin
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Post by Colin McA on Jul 28, 2015 19:49:45 GMT
 Not to hijack the thread. Took this tonight, my panel had 2 switches plus cigar lighter. I drilled a hole for hazzard switch using the pilot, one pilot hole can be seen in the pic. Colin |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jul 28, 2015 21:28:03 GMT
I probably used the pilot when I drilled mine - it was over 20 years ago - I did both P5B's and still have one of the panels somewhere. On our current one when I fitted the cold start pull in place of the AED I used a twin panel as fitted to earlier ones so where the fuel reserve pull is supposed to fit I put the hazard switch and left the fuel reserve on its single bracket
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Post by Welsh Warlock on Jul 29, 2015 11:38:20 GMT
When I bought my car 15 years ago there was a hazard switch fitted. It didn't work and upon inspection it hadn't been wired in.
I'm trying to find a roundtuit so I can wire it us. The relay is in a cradle attached to the switch which is a period one.
i can only think of one occasion when it would have been useful but then it would have been REALLY useful.
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Post by enigmas on Jul 29, 2015 12:17:37 GMT
Could someone post a picture of the wiring diagram used to splice into the indicator circuit to operate the hazards?
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Post by norvin on Jul 29, 2015 13:48:59 GMT
 Hope this might help sorry its not sharper. |
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Post by enigmas on Jul 29, 2015 21:44:33 GMT
Thanks Norvin.
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Post by Colin McA on Jul 29, 2015 22:45:24 GMT
 Familiar diagram. Colin |
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Post by norvin on Jul 30, 2015 9:49:00 GMT
I am sure you know but pulling off the trim from beneath the dash gives access to all the flasher connections and most have double connectors so if the switch you are using has bullet connectors its makes it easy. below is a shot of the flasher connections and the switch I used.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:16:53 GMT
I am sure you know but pulling off the trim from beneath the dash gives access to all the flasher connections and most have double connectors so if the switch you are using has bullet connectors its makes it easy. below is a shot of the flasher connections and the switch I used. I connected into the indicator circuit via the wiring behind the "A" post trim. I ran power and the earth in from the engine bay and ran the two wires to the existing flasher up through the steering wheel shroud. All wiring is out of sight. Here's an image of the connections I made under the parcel shelf. The two brown wires lead to the pod. I didn't realise the wiring could be accessed as you've pointed out and I had quite a battle with that under dash trim when I was trying to replace the locknut on the trip reset knob which I'd removed to enable the instrument pod to be pulled forward for the other hazard wiring. I just couldn't see how that black trim could be removed without damaging it but obviously it can!  |
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Post by dave3066 on Jul 30, 2015 13:14:50 GMT
Mine's got a bulb behind the pull and has an audible click. The main reason I fitted it was in case the car "fails to proceed" as there's no other way to tell motorists that you haven't just stopped to annoy them! Hazards are accepted as meaning 1) Thank you for letting me merge in, 2) I have authority to park totally inappropriately, 3) I'm in trouble 4) I've broken down etc etc. "No other way to tell motorists" indeed! I carry a couple of warning triangles in case I break down, I wave if someone lets me in (there's so much more visibility with older cars it's easier to be seen waving), I never ever park totally inappropriately  , but this looks like a sensible addition. Must get round to it sometime. Dave |
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, but this looks like a sensible addition. Must get round to it sometime.