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May 25, 2005 21:34:04 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 25, 2005 21:34:04 GMT
I dont know if most owners know but the 185 x 15 radial is in very short supply. The P5 Club commitee is trying to organise a new production run for members to ensure availabilty and sensible pricing. In the meantime Micheldever tyres have just received 20 of Hankook and they are available mail order for £39.00 + vat each + carriage. Mention you are a P5 owner when you order (speak to Brian). They are on 01962 774437. If you are more local to Hampshire then they will fit for you as well. TEXT
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May 25, 2005 22:14:15 GMT
Post by Smallfry on May 25, 2005 22:14:15 GMT
185 x 15 is a common fitment in the far east, so I don't believe that future supply will be a problem for the time being, although it IS possible that European manufactured tyres might be a problem.
Dont be fooled into thinking that because tyres such as Hankook and Kumho come from the far east, and are quite cheap, that they are no good. They are excellent tyres, and are for the most part every bit as good as anything made here.
I recommended Micheldever Tyres in my post under P5B General......it appears to have been "moderated". They can, and will, always obtain anything you need.
However, I can thoroughly recommend them. They are so cheap that if I want more than one tyre I always make the 200 mile round trip. Their service is excellent, and their whole operation will make your jaw drop.
They also have top class balancing equipment, unlike most outlets, which locates on the stud holes, rather than the wheel centre hole, which is useless. This means that the wheel is perfectly balanced in any position.
If you dont believe that, how many times have you had your wheels "balanced" and still had a wobble ? Ask your usual fitter to remove the wheel from the machine after balancing, and re-mount it and try again. I can almost guarantee that the balance will not be repeatable !
Thay also have superb four wheel alignment equipment, and will sort you out if the car is not running true, or pulling to one side. Ordinary "tracking" is not good enough, and after having this done, you will never want anyone else to touch it !
I worked in the motor trade for some years, and I DONT recommend many companies. This is why I NEVER put any my cars into any garage for servicing.
Another excellent source is North Hants tyres. They can supply anything you want. Whitewalls, Radials, Crossplys, etc. I dont, however, have any experience of their fitting services.........Yet.
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May 25, 2005 23:42:59 GMT
Post by Allan NZ P5b on May 25, 2005 23:42:59 GMT
I use coopers as they are well priced over here and I like the white wall coopertires.comI run a 205/70's with no problems see here roverp5.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=sale31&action=display&thread=1111422041Kuhmos are also good I guess we get more far east, asian brands here as we are suposed to be pacific rim nation. I personnally think we are still very european influenced but we do have a lot of asian products avaliable and most are of a very high standard Regards
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May 26, 2005 7:51:19 GMT
Post by Neddy on May 26, 2005 7:51:19 GMT
[glow=YELLOW,2,300]LETS NOT PANIC OVER TYRES SUPPLY[/glow]How many cars do you know of, that have been taken off the road due to the unavailablity of tyres? I cannot think of one. Calm down dear, it's only a tyre!! Neddy
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May 26, 2005 8:39:12 GMT
Post by David on May 26, 2005 8:39:12 GMT
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May 26, 2005 8:43:32 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 26, 2005 8:43:32 GMT
There is no question of the 185 x 15 not being available but there is a problem with price. Michelin and Vredestein now only make then for Vintage Tyre Supplies at over £100 per tyre. Hankook are not importing in decent numbers and the price has risen to £39 + vat. Micheldever import the very good Kumho and sell them for under £30 + vat but the tyre has recently been discontinued. I have asked Micheldever to get the tyre manufacturerd again and the P5 Club will back this. This is one benefit of having an active Club. The aim is to ensure availability of a good tyre at the right price so our cars can be kept on the road with realistic running costs. Tyres made for other markets can be of the wrong compound or type approval for the UK. To establish the above I spent many hours on the phone talking to importers and distributors including North Hants who are local to me.
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May 26, 2005 12:30:07 GMT
Post by ADRIAN50 on May 26, 2005 12:30:07 GMT
I have the Vredestein Classics on my P5B Coupe, and they are available from www.mytyres.co.uk at £60.20 and that prices includes UK delivery and VAT . BARGAIN!! Thanks to Roy Fellingham for the contact (www.mytyres.co.uk) Er.. that means Vintage Tyres are not the sole supplier doesn't it? « Last Edit: May 25th, 2005, 05:50am by adrian50 » <br>
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May 26, 2005 15:19:20 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 26, 2005 15:19:20 GMT
If you speak to My Tyres as I have previously and again today they will tell you that although this tyre is on their web site they have no stock and do not know when or if they will be getting any. There is a genuine tyre shortage for our cars and I am trying to do something about it!
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May 26, 2005 15:51:12 GMT
Post by Phil Nottingham on May 26, 2005 15:51:12 GMT
I managed to source the last two Kumos John Wearing had at the P4DG National at the lower price although I will have to pay for them to be fitted.
He cannot get anymore.
I would certianly be interested if the club could get them and perhaps it could join forces with the P4DG as these are are suitable for P4's and safer than the crossplies they had done some years ago
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May 26, 2005 16:26:15 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 26, 2005 16:26:15 GMT
Phil, The discussion had at the last P5 Club meeting on Saturday was that we should encourage all potential users including other Rover clubs / Jaguar clubs etc to get together on this one. I hope to hear back soon how many need to be ordered but we have enough buying power between us to ensure they are made and at sensible money. Let me know if the P4DG would like to get involved or who to speak to.
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May 26, 2005 17:45:34 GMT
Post by richard egliinton on May 26, 2005 17:45:34 GMT
The cost of a tyre is small compared to filling a tank with 63 litres of petrol at 88p per litre taking you 200 miles if you're lucky If you use radials because of mileage covered your tyre replacement costs must be minute compared to fuel costs and I don't really understand what all the fuss is about If your mileage is low and you care about originality,go for crossplies. Richard
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May 26, 2005 18:45:53 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 26, 2005 18:45:53 GMT
No fuss, To keep these cars on the road they need to have spare parts. Tyres are a major safety factor and if I need 4 tyres for one of my P5 fleet I would rather pay £136.00 for 4 of Kumho than £440 for a set of Michelins. I think this is what it is all about, keeping our motoring heritage on the road in a viable and safe way. Also not everyone can afford to pay an extra £304 for a set of tyres and some of us dont want to even if we could. I have driven these cars on crossplies and it was not a nice experience.
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May 27, 2005 8:07:18 GMT
Post by David on May 27, 2005 8:07:18 GMT
Any substantial saving that can be made must be a good thing. The problem with tyres is you need to pay a out a lump sum when they are no longer legal - and this is usually in pairs - with petrol its more of a 'gentle seepage' on your wallet Let's not forget why classic car clubs exist. We as a club are in a fortunate position that we have an option to contribute towards production cost - many other clubs of a similar or larger size do not have this financial flexibility. As club members money may be used, only club members will benefit - makes joining the club more than worthwhile? Geoff should be applauded for taking the initiative on this.
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May 27, 2005 15:41:41 GMT
Post by Phil Nottingham on May 27, 2005 15:41:41 GMT
;DI wholeheartedly agree and its a very good use of club funds provided that members do put their money where their mouths are and actually buy them so the club is not left with years worth of stock.
However to keep costs managable they could be offered to non-members at £20 uplift each tyre.
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May 28, 2005 12:58:00 GMT
Post by Geoff Arthur on May 28, 2005 12:58:00 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts guys. I will report back once I know what is happening. There is also a further issue coming up with tyres. In the USA it is now recommended that no tyre is used that is older than 6 years. This is not yet law but may soon become so. Various similar ideas have been put forward by the EU. Most of our cars do not wear tyres out as their mileage is not vast but they do decline with age and I have 3 cars that would be affected by any legal change and that is a significant cost issue and would write off all those nice brand new old stock tyres we may have sitting around. The DOT marking on your tyres gives the year of manufacture usually as the last number.
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May 28, 2005 19:24:23 GMT
Post by Keith - Portsmouth on May 28, 2005 19:24:23 GMT
From the old board -
To check the age of a tyre -
Tires made prior to 2000 will have date coding in the following format: WWY, where WW is the week of the year (up to 52), and Y is the last digit of the year; code 226 means the 22nd week of 1996. As of 2000, coding changed to WWYY, where WW is still the week of the year, but YY is the last two digits of the year; will be in a DOT coding looking like DOTxxxxxxxx2200.
I've just looked at two tyres, one fitted in 1995 and the other in 2002, and they have codes 155 and 1902 respectively. So it appears to be true.
I have no idea what happened before 1990 though .
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May 28, 2005 19:27:21 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 28, 2005 19:27:21 GMT
:If no date code the tyres are well past their use by date ;D
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May 28, 2005 20:04:23 GMT
Post by richard eglinton on May 28, 2005 20:04:23 GMT
On what authority and scientific basis do you make that broad assumption? Have you read the MOT testers guide? Richard
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Jun 3, 2005 18:37:50 GMT
Post by RichardF on Jun 3, 2005 18:37:50 GMT
Guys, I have just ordered myself qty 5 new 205/70R15H radial tyres from www.etyres.co.uk. They will be fitted at my home (mobile service) on Monday 13 June. Just as info, they cost £46.90 each all in - including vat, balancing, fitting etc., no other charges whatsoever. As the serviceable 6.70 cross plies being removed will be redundant, anyone who is willing to collect may have them free. They are legal and, as far as I know, all okay. I have yet to check the spare, so there may be a 5th free tyre available. I live just off junction 9 of the M27 a few miles to the East of Southampton. I am off to France at the crack of dawn tomorrow (Sat 4 June) and will return by late evening (22:30) of Saturday 11 June. My e-mail address is: richyfitz@hotmail.com Richard Fitzpatrick
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Jun 3, 2005 19:19:48 GMT
Post by richard eglinton on Jun 3, 2005 19:19:48 GMT
I wish I lived nearer What make are they? Richard
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Jun 3, 2005 20:45:56 GMT
Post by RichardF on Jun 3, 2005 20:45:56 GMT
The four tyres on the car are CHEMLON 6.70 x 15 tubed 91P, 6 ply. As you are the first in line, I don't mind keeping them for a while for you.
Richard
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Jun 4, 2005 19:59:42 GMT
Post by Richard eglinton on Jun 4, 2005 19:59:42 GMT
I must admit that I am tempted by the product on offer at etyres ie 205/70R15H "economy brand" The price seems good. Is a 205 section a better bet than a 185 and I assume that everything clears on full lock? It seems that 70 is the highest profile available in this size and width. I might yet become a convert as I am aware that my crossplies, although top quality, are getting a bit old and this does play on my mind from time to time Richard
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Jun 4, 2005 20:36:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2005 20:36:37 GMT
They do fit without any clearance problems - I have used them in the past. They do look heavier but also ride better and make the steering less light so the box seals have to be good as when cold they will leak more.
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Jun 6, 2005 6:28:16 GMT
Post by stantondavies on Jun 6, 2005 6:28:16 GMT
No fuss, To keep these cars on the road they need to have spare parts. Tyres are a major safety factor and if I need 4 tyres for one of my P5 fleet I would rather pay £136.00 for 4 of Kumho than £440 for a set of Michelins. I think this is what it is all about, keeping our motoring heritage on the road in a viable and safe way. Also not everyone can afford to pay an extra £304 for a set of tyres and some of us dont want to even if we could. I have driven these cars on crossplies and it was not a nice experience. Time and time again I see Kumhos promoted over Michelin, but they are not in the same league. Perhaps it is because I have a 3litre that I notice the difference with all that weight on the front wheels. Anyway when I switched from Michelin to Kumho I nearly crashed the car such was the inferior grip. I am now back on Michelin.
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Jun 6, 2005 6:30:52 GMT
Post by stantondavies on Jun 6, 2005 6:30:52 GMT
From the old board - To check the age of a tyre -
Tires made prior to 2000 will have date coding in the following format: WWY, where WW is the week of the year (up to 52), and Y is the last digit of the year; code 226 means the 22nd week of 1996. As of 2000, coding changed to WWYY, where WW is still the week of the year, but YY is the last two digits of the year; will be in a DOT coding looking like DOTxxxxxxxx2200.
I've just looked at two tyres, one fitted in 1995 and the other in 2002, and they have codes 155 and 1902 respectively. So it appears to be true.
I have no idea what happened before 1990 though . Before 1990 you could not tell which decade the tyre was made in.
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