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Post by glennr on Jan 30, 2006 19:42:59 GMT
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jan 30, 2006 19:53:48 GMT
They do look good as do your sills - I note that the ends of your sills seem to be closed off properly
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Jan 30, 2006 20:33:26 GMT
Well done Glenn, they seem to have done a really nice job.
Roy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 15:18:56 GMT
Top marks to Glenn for the sill finisher trims.
Lets hope he manages to sell plenty, god knows there are lots of P5's without them.
Glenn, will you be able to cost them up soon?
Adrian
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Post by glennr on Jan 31, 2006 19:57:59 GMT
Yes Freddy, £4000 a pair.  ;D I have worrked out costings already but I may still be able to get the price down a bit more if I order 50 pairs. I have 10 pairs already. I am sending a pair to Phil to have a look at. Phil always gives an honest opinion and he's views appear to be respected. Here is the projected cost. I respect any feedback. grroverp5bcoupe@aol.com Chipboard tubes with Kraft outer ply 63.5mmi/d x3mm wall x 2000mmL Total £12.46 p&p (£10 carriage, £2.46 packaging) Total: £88.46 for a pair of sill trims inc p&pStainless Steel Sill trims plus clips x24 £102.46 (£4 discount) inc p&p Stainless Steel Clips. They won’t rust! Full pack:(12 clips per side). 24 in total: £18.00 I hope these prices will be as shown or slightly less. A pack of 12 clips will cost: £10The sill trims/clips may be picked up from my address by appointment only. Delivery charges and packaging will then be removed. Cost of sill trims will be: £76
PS. Can anybody be good enough to send me some photos of the sill trims on the car? The more the merrier but close up shots would be very helpful, plus the measurement from the bottom of the sill to the bottom edge trim and the measurment from the top edge of the sill to the top edge of the trim. I will then fit one of them to my car to see what it looks like. |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jan 31, 2006 21:04:35 GMT
I will measure up and photograph tomorrow if no-one else does - mine are the original but no two cars are exacty the same as you will see if examined closely
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Post by glennr on Jan 31, 2006 22:02:31 GMT
Yes I have noticed that, just like the door/wing gaps etc. Many thanks anyway.
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Post by Andy - SE London on Feb 1, 2006 9:46:51 GMT
The sill trims look great  well done glenn. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2006 11:07:29 GMT
Glenn I will photograph mine on Saturday and try to send the pictures to you with measurements.  Regards Adrian |
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Post by glennr on Feb 1, 2006 14:41:52 GMT
The more the merrier as I can then decide myself what are of use.  |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 1, 2006 20:30:34 GMT
Sorry I have not come up with mine either got home late and just rectified a plumbing emergency
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Post by glennr on Feb 2, 2006 14:49:01 GMT
Slight setback on the trims. I tried to fit one on today and although it went on there were some teething problems. As I say "Don't count your chickens" There is not enough expected give on the bend allowance to follow the curvature of the sill particularly at the section at the rear. I knew this might be a problem even though they worked of an old original sill trim. Therefore I am taking down to them two replacement outer sills from JRW to use as a template. They can also put on the clips and attach it to the sill to check the profiling. I would still appreciate any photos. It has to be right so that the trims clip on as easily as possible. On my attempt you might see how good they will look though. |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 2, 2006 20:25:27 GMT
Sorry to hear of the hiccup I have braved the freezing cold and dark after just getting in to post these - the strips are actually at the top of the sills just say 2 mm max below the curve that goes up below the door bottoms and they are 15mm from the end. As I said all cars are not the same and restored ones usually have them a shade on the low side because the door bottoms do not line up with the sills or the sills are set too far inwards and/or high/low    PS I am going to have to do some cosmetics in the spring! |
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Post by glennr on Feb 2, 2006 21:21:28 GMT
 Thank you Phil. I hope it wasn't the Captain Oates scenario. In this photo the sill trim does not seem as forward on the sill as in your photo. |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 2, 2006 23:08:22 GMT
I see what you mean and logically it may be that they should be nearer if not at the end of the sill. However both mine finish in the same place but then again both have been removed in the past but not by me. I have tried to look at contemporary pictures but its impossible to tell - the black finish does not help. It could be just down to personal choice and best fit for the car we are probably taking of less than 10mm - the build tolerances just were not down to current levels and door gaps can vary by almost as much as that on unrestored late model P5B's  Whilst Wadhams are the best after market panels possible these days there is no guarantee that they are precisely the same as the originals so some compromise will be required. More pictures are called for - perhaps everyone who have these left on (where they were placed when built) will be out measuring at the weekend? Those with restored cars will probably not even have noticed till now that their strips are (usually) too low! - if they have them of course |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 2, 2006 23:22:16 GMT
Ps Note that on mine with what was once a brand new back door, it over-shoots the end of the sill - whereas on the picture you posted the sill is too long as is the strip - door edge/sill edge are supposed to be in line!
Very, very few people would have even known or noticed these littel details unless pointed out to them let alone cared
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Post by glennr on Feb 3, 2006 10:44:58 GMT
I think I will have to cover myself on this one by stating that the trims will fit the contour of a JRW sill but I cannot be held responsible that they will fit other sills as well. For example somebody may have of had a repair done to the sill(s). and that has changed the contour I don't think there can be too many out there that have the original sills but the trims may fit just as well. I don't know until I find someone with originals. Phil, your sills look original. Are they?  |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 3, 2006 17:19:55 GMT
Yes they are still the original sills and I will do a trial fit of the new strips once all sorted. I agree that they should be set up to fit the Wadhams sills as most cars will have them sooner or later if used to any great extent.
Even Wadhams sills if badly fitted will prevent proper fitment of the strip whether orginal or otherwise. There were also some terrible cover sills sold at one time - I have one if anyone wants it
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Post by glennr on Feb 17, 2006 16:03:15 GMT
I have been given a 100% guarantee that the sill trims will be ready to pick up on Monday. They have improved the curvature to fit a Wadhams sill. ;D
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;D I have worrked out costings already but I may still be able to get the price down a bit more if I order 50 pairs. I have 10 pairs already. I am sending a pair to Phil to have a look at. Phil always gives an honest opinion and he's views appear to be respected. Here is the projected cost. I respect any feedback. 
