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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 23, 2018 9:02:34 GMT
I also not that you are "converting" the head to unleaded. There is no need as long as good quality valves are used as hardened seats are fitted in head and block.
The alternator just uses the existing bracket in the O/s top of the engine with a spacer tube.
I suggest you look on the S2 and S3 Forums!
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Post by bigj on Apr 23, 2018 9:35:28 GMT
Just looked - the manual 3 Litre flywheel has 8 holes. The 2.6L all have 6 and that engine was used in LR's. Many have fitted 3 Litres in LR's so it cannot be that difficult? Hi Phil, thanks for the info. Do you know if the spigot bush on the manual Rover is in the flywheel as it is in the LR or is it in the crank itself? I’m already on the LR forums but this isn’t a common conversion and there aren’t many people around who can provide this level of detail as many conversions were done a long time ago by the PO. Joe
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 23, 2018 12:05:45 GMT
The bush is in the flywheel and is the same one for P4/P5 and Series LR's 08566L
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Post by bigj on Apr 23, 2018 13:14:50 GMT
The bush is in the flywheel and is the same one for P4/P5 and Series LR's 08566L Thanks again Phil, I’ve put a call into some suppliers to see if they have one in stock.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 23, 2018 14:11:47 GMT
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Post by bigj on Apr 23, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
Sorry, I meant the 3.0 flywheel. Nothing showing in the for sale section or on EBay at the moment so asking around the specialist suppliers like Wadhams etc.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 23, 2018 17:39:08 GMT
David Green is the likely supplier or on FB Mark Cossey
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Post by bigj on Apr 24, 2018 6:59:23 GMT
Let us all know what Burlen says please. Just to close this point out, I spoke to Burlen yesterday about the HD8 with the economiser fitted and they looked at possible alternatives for me. Unfortunately they couldn’t suggest a straight swap if I wanted to maintain the full range of performance that the carb would give the 3.0 engine in its original application in the saloon car. The HD8 carbs used on the Jags and AH will not do the job properly for reasons we already know about. That said, because I am fitting my engine into a Series 3 SWB Landrover where it is unlikely I will need the full power and rev range of the engine, they suggested that a re-jetted HD6 would suit my needs. I would most likely lose some power at the top end of the rev range but would see an improvement with both the idle and with low and mid range performance subject to a rolling road session. I just happen to have a very good rolling road carb specialist nearby so in the absence of a HD8 being sourced, this may be a route I can take. Burlen did say that if I can even find just the HD8 carb body then they can build the rest of it for me so if anyone has one or knows of someone who does then please PM me. I’m sure one will turn up eventually but if not at least I have a plan B. Not much help for saloon car owners I’m afraid but hopefully it contributes in a small way to the knowledge base.
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Post by Ken Nelson on Apr 24, 2018 12:58:28 GMT
Thanks for the feedback bigj. Let us know of the final outcome.
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Post by bigj on Apr 29, 2018 11:40:04 GMT
Would anybody happen to know if the diameter of the manual flywheel is the same as the ring gear on the auto?
I’m really hoping the manual box flywheel is about 15mm less in diameter than the auto otherwise I think my project could be scupperd. The flywheel housing off my auto engine is larger than that of the 2.6 Landrover housing and so, if the manual flywheel is also the larger diameter and thus requires the larger housing to sit in, then my LR gearbox won’t bolt up to it.
Will call Wadhams tomorrow but if anyone has any information in the meantime it would be appreciated.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 30, 2018 8:11:14 GMT
I do not know but I would strongly suspect the auto bellhousing is only larger to house the big torque converter. I am fairly certain the 2.6 flywheel and clutch etc is the same diameter as the 3 Litre as both use the same starter motor
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Post by bigj on Apr 30, 2018 17:05:33 GMT
I do not know but I would strongly suspect the auto bellhousing is only larger to house the big torque converter. I am fairly certain the 2.6 flywheel and clutch etc is the same diameter as the 3 Litre as both use the same starter motor Phil you have no idea how much I hope that’s true. Edit: It turns out that although the manual flywheel has the same 8 bolt pattern as the auto crank, it is also the same diameter (340mm ish) and so will not fit inside the smaller Landrover flywheel housing. I can’t see any further way forward with this so will probably just sell this engine on and look at alternatives. It’s a shame as the Rover engine would have made a good period upgrade for the old Landrover. Thanks to all who have helped and contributed to the thread. Hopefully the information in the discussion may be of use to others in the future. Cheers. Joe
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Post by Phil Nottingham on May 1, 2018 8:03:16 GMT
A great shame Joe but the thread has been of interest showing up the differences with the auto and manual
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Post by bigj on May 7, 2018 8:58:28 GMT
I’ve found out that a series 3 Landrover diesel flywheel should bolt straight onto the end of the 3.0 auto crank, just waiting on the delivery of one to confirm but all dimensions line up and I shouldn’t need to carry out any further modifications.
Going back to the engine, is that rectangular looking item on the sump some sort of oil level or temperature sender?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on May 7, 2018 17:38:45 GMT
Oil level
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Post by bigj on May 19, 2018 13:45:32 GMT
Does anyone know if the auto and manual cranks are interchangeable on the 3.0?
Can the 3.0 Westlake head be fitted to a 2.6 block as used in the Series Landrover? Is the 3.0 camshaft an upgrade to the 2.6 camshaft?
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