Before I set off for Scotland I noticed a change in sound from the rear, it was as if a brake shoe had a high spot and was rubbing. I forgot about it untill I was in Scotland and heard it again between 30 and 50 MPH. Above that speed there was probably too much wind noise to hear it. The noise level has not increased, but I was glad to get home. Today, with the aid of a microphone I have located the rubbing sound to the nearside rear axle, presumably it is a worn bearing. The car has done 145000 miles and apart from regular oil changes (GL4) the axle has never been touched. With winter coming I could remove the axle and take it somewhere for a total overhaul - but where ? Has anyone had an axle re-built ? Any suggestions ?
The club also has the correct press tool available to members only to press out and in the bearings.
I'm glad to hear that, because I was offered that tool recently when I bought a lot of tools and equipment from a garage that was closing down, and that particular tool would have put me beyond my budget, so I couldn't buy it.
You get a bit of backlash in the diff George there has to be a bit, as long as it doesn't whine like a Blackpool tram, it's not a difficult job if you remove the diff get the backend well up off the ground and find another pair of arms to help, or as I did with Glenn's make a platform to bolt on to a trolley jack.
I have corresponded with George about this. I am arranging to pick up the tool that the club holds to do mine, so as George is close by we could do his and mine. I was already intending to make a record of the process.
Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 5, 2019 6:19:30 GMT
Land Rover axles are not the same and have fully floating halfshafts. The half shaft can just be unbolted with the vehicle standing on it wheels. The bearing and its seal can easily be replaced in a few mins!
Early S1 were similar as they were based on the P2 set up which carried on till the P5B but only as far as half shaft bearings, seals and collars and the actual diff. The banjo and half shafts are different.
The bearings do rumble when shot and can do so for 1000s of miles getting really noisy but still without any play at the wheel
You said it makes a sound "like a brake shoe had a high spot and was rubbing".
Then is that not probably what it is? A worn bearing will rumble rather than rub. Also, a worn bearing often leads to failure of the seal too, giving steady drip of oil into the brake drum.
Have you tried jacking up the read end, removing both brake drums and then running up the car in gear to 30-50mph?
Yes, I did that and eased off the brake adjusters so that there was no rubbing, I also sat a microphone on top of the bearing which picked up the noise, even though it was close to the exhaust, it is too late now as one of the half shafts is out and at least, when done, it should set her up for the next 50 years !
Prevention is better than cure George. Youre doing the right thing my friend.
That is right, but a bit nerve racking !
If I only did local journeys I would probably leave it until it got worse, but taking her to Scotland is the highlight of my Rovering year and it would be a nightmare if she conked out 641 miles from home !
Post by eightofthem (Andy) on Oct 9, 2019 20:49:06 GMT
If anyone is contemplating the strip and overhaul of the rear axle and needs a rear Axle tube I have one here along with the half shafts ( complete ) I also have a diff, been in storage for a long while Free to anyone, just needs collecting. Feel free to move this post if it needs to go in the spares section
beauty is all around us, but not everyone can see it
Removing my rear axle is also one of those jobs I would like to do too George for a variety of reasons
1. I want to scrub and paint it
2. I want to refit it with my new JRW brake line kit
3. It gives me the chance to finish off the waxoil areas above the axle area
4. Allows me to fit my new set of rear Y bushes
5. Its something to do over winter. LOL
I am still thinking it over as to do it or not just like doing my new door seals which are a task in themselves. LOL
It depends how much time you have to spend on the Rover. I would do the door seals first, assuming the old ones are quite bad. The axle is quite straight forward to remove, but it is very heavy. I took mine off some years ago to clean and paint it. I think that I balanced it on a jack. If I was doing it now I would leave it in place and just do one side at a time.
I have plenty of time these days being retired again so its just a case of committing to the task and making a start. Ive got my Aston Martin booked in for its M.O.T at the end of November so once that's all done I can put her away back up in the air on my ramp and then commit to the Rover again and make a start on things. TBH I prefer to drop the rear axle off the car as working area space will be a lot better and all the dirty scrubbing off can be done outside on the driveway. My " mancave " is a kind of super clean place and I want to keep it that way. LOL.
Doing the door seals is going to really test me. The boot seal ive done and I didn't like doing it if im honest.