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Post by lagain on Oct 30, 2019 17:37:10 GMT
With the special tool I have replaced the bearings and the collars but have another question. I have knocked the collars on as far as the special tool will push them, so that the end of the special tool is touching the hub, but there is about half an inch, or more, of horizontal play in the shaft - the bearings have not been pushed to the end of the shaft, is this correct or do I need to knock them down further which I could do by using the old collar ?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 30, 2019 18:58:45 GMT
There should be no play if I am understanding what you describe. From recollection the collar must go in further using the old collar as a distance piece (part slit/cut so you can remove it easily)
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 30, 2019 19:00:11 GMT
With the special tool I have replaced the bearings and the collars but have another question. I have knocked the collars on as far as the special tool will push them, so that the end of the special tool is touching the hub, but there is about half an inch, or more, of horizontal play in the shaft - the bearings have not been pushed to the end of the shaft, is this correct or do I need to knock them down further which I could do by using the old collar ? George have you got the 3Lt service manual?
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Post by lagain on Oct 30, 2019 21:46:54 GMT
With the special tool I have replaced the bearings and the collars but have another question. I have knocked the collars on as far as the special tool will push them, so that the end of the special tool is touching the hub, but there is about half an inch, or more, of horizontal play in the shaft - the bearings have not been pushed to the end of the shaft, is this correct or do I need to knock them down further which I could do by using the old collar ? George have you got the 3Lt service manual? Yes and keep looking at it, I must be missing something
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Post by lagain on Oct 30, 2019 21:52:04 GMT
There should be no play if I am understanding what you describe. From recollection the collar must go in further using the old collar as a distance piece (part slit/cut so you can remove it easily) Thanks Phil
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Post by enigmas on Oct 30, 2019 22:19:50 GMT
It seems like a really medieval 'muscle over mind' method of fitting the 'new' collar. Wouldn't it be better to heat the collar separately (either in an oven or with a separate heat source) so that it expands and then seat it with a suitable long tubular drift. As it cools it would contract tightly on the axle shaft.This method works equally well with ring gears and specific conrods when fitting gudgeon pins.
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Post by lagain on Oct 31, 2019 21:53:23 GMT
It seems like a really medieval 'muscle over mind' method of fitting the 'new' collar. Wouldn't it be better to heat the collar separately (either in an oven or with a separate heat source) so that it expands and then seat it with a suitable long tubular drift. As it cools it would contract tightly on the axle shaft.This method works equally well with ring gears and specific conrods when fitting gudgeon pins. It is similar to the 'thumper' tool that farmers use to knock in new fence posts ! I did heat the collar in the oven, but not too hot as I wanted the grease to stay on it, although by the time I had everything set up it had probably cooled down, but today (following forum advice - thanks !) I have used one of the old collars to drive the new collar further down the shaft until I could tell by the sound that the bearing had 'bottomed' There is still free play movement with the hub moving on the shaft, but only about an eighth of an inch. To avoid the old collar sticking on the shaft and being difficlt to get off I cut all the way along it and then used a Jubilee clip to tighten it - thought that was rather clever ! Having had time to check the old bearings the one that was not making any noise was in worse condition, it felt as if the bearings had become square. They have done well to last 150000 miles.
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Post by steveattravelwise on Jun 17, 2020 9:17:22 GMT
Hi George Do you still have said Special Tool to remove rear wheel bearings or do you know where i can obtain it. Not sure how this works.
Steve
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Post by Sam Bee on Jun 17, 2020 11:52:04 GMT
The tool is held by our Chairman, Ray. He is in Worthing. With it are a set of illustrated instructions.
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Post by steveattravelwise on Jun 17, 2020 18:39:16 GMT
Thanks Sam
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