lutz
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Post by lutz on Dec 30, 2019 20:42:27 GMT
Hi there,
I just rebuilding a Rover P5/B Coupe, LHD, build in 1973.
I want to assemble the original wing mirrors, but I do not find something about the original position on the wings.
Who can help me and send me the measures.
Thank you for your help.
Best regards
Lutz from Hamburg
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Dec 30, 2019 21:46:25 GMT
Hi Lutz welcome to the forum  There is no fixed position for the wing mirrors as long as they are on top of the wing bulge! mine are just forward of the wheel centre see pic and give good coverage   |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Dec 31, 2019 17:10:56 GMT
They need to be approx over the centre of the front wheels as it makes them more useful in reversing
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lutz
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Post by lutz on Mar 25, 2020 13:14:07 GMT
Hi Lutz welcome to the forum There is no fixed position for the wing mirrors as long as they are on top of the wing bulge! mine are just forward of the wheel centre see pic and give good coverage |
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lutz
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Post by lutz on Mar 25, 2020 13:29:01 GMT
Thank you for your help.  I have retrofitted JDM Fender Mirrors at my Datsun 280Z. For this one, I took the original dimensions from Datsun. I like to drive with them and took the same dimensions for my Rover Coupe. The Fender Mirror Position at the rover is approxymately 1/3 of the Fender from ahead. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by davewright on Mar 25, 2020 14:22:13 GMT
Lutz
My understanding is that Rover never fitted wing mirrors and they are all dealer fitted items. Unfortunately dealers put them in different places. I have two replacement wings of different cars both of which came with holes for mirrors. One is on the top of the bulge and the other in the dip. The first is better because it will fold all the way around whilst the other hits the bonnet. They both give a good view and cover blind spots nicely and I find them a useful addition to the door mounted mirrors I have.
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Post by lagain on Mar 25, 2020 16:56:31 GMT
Look about right to me
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Post by djm16 on Mar 26, 2020 3:59:32 GMT
If you want the image of a truck on your tail to look larger than 1/16", then you should have the wing mirror as close as possible to your eyes. When I used to ride a motorcycle in London, I found two sets of mirrors to be optimal. The first set were mounted on the handle bars, around 18" from my eyes. They were ideal for close work - London traffic. The second set were mounted on the fairing at approximately 36" from my eyes (outstretched arm). They were more useful than the close ones for motorway traffic. I have found where the mirror was mounted on the replacement wing I used on my coupe:  Wing undergoing a trial fit. You can see where I welded up the hole for the wing mirror: just in front of the trailing edge of the bonnet (although it could I suppose have been an aerial). None are fitted on my coupe. Caution though that the mirror is not obscured by the A pillar. |
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Post by OlafR on Mar 26, 2020 15:25:05 GMT
FWIW, mine are right underneath the quarter windows (see the profile pic!) and that's exactly how I want them as it makes it so much easier to adjust them. I do ask myself though as to whether the wing mounted ones provide a better view, particularly as everything seems to be sort of too close resp. "zoomed" ...
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revoxy
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Post by revoxy on Mar 26, 2020 16:35:45 GMT
FWIW, mine are right underneath the quarter windows (see the profile pic!) and that's exactly how I want them as it makes it so much easier to adjust them. I do ask myself though as to whether the wing mounted ones provide a better view, particularly as everything seems to be sort of too close resp. "zoomed" ...
Like Olaf’s, my wing mirror is on the driver's door outside the quarter light. However, being on a right hand drive car in Austria, it's as much use as a chocolate ashtray. I removed it for a while but put it back just because it looks better. |
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Post by OlafR on Mar 26, 2020 17:10:20 GMT
Like Olaf’s, my wing mirror is on the driver's door outside the quarter light. However, being on a right hand drive car in Austria, it's as much use as a chocolate ashtray. I removed it for a while but put it back just because it looks better. I'm in Germany and my car's a RHD as well. Don't have much of a problem with the mirrors, apart from the fact that, as previously stated, they do feel like they're zooming things quite a bit too much. I always held the wing-mounted position responsible for that, assuming that this is where the mirrors were originally mounted.
But apart from that I use them a whole lot and wouldn't call them an undesired accessory at all. |
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Post by lagain on Mar 26, 2020 17:15:31 GMT
For older drivers there is an advantage in having the mirrors towards the front of the wings, as the eyes do not have to adjust when they are transfered from looking at the road ahead. I find now that when I look at the speedo there is a whirring noise as my eyes adjust and then more whirring when I look ahead again, so I tend to just look ahead |
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Post by Eric R on Mar 26, 2020 20:33:43 GMT
I have loaned out my James Taylor book so I cant check it out, but I'm sure he stated a precise fixing hole for wing mirrors - 36" from the door edge of the front wing.
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Post by Brendan69 on Mar 27, 2020 8:45:41 GMT
For older drivers there is an advantage in having the mirrors towards the front of the wings, as the eyes do not have to adjust when they are transfered from looking at the road ahead. I find now that when I look at the speedo there is a whirring noise as my eyes adjust and then more whirring when I look ahead again, so I tend to just look ahead I get exactly the same symptoms George from Joanne so i just ignore her!!! LOL and look straight ahead. LOL. Eric, i think its 36 inches 1mm!!! LOL |
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Post by djm16 on Mar 27, 2020 10:08:23 GMT
You are both lucky that your eyes still adjust. Mine have been fixed focus for years now.
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Post by Sam Bee on Mar 27, 2020 11:17:17 GMT
It would appear that all the wing mirrors fitted by Rover agents are pretty much in the same spot. Question is, did Rover issue an instruction to the agents? Mine are over the centre of the wheel arches. I am thinking of a supplemental drivers' door mirror of the P6 type, I have several spare but the stems are not up to scratch.
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Post by Eric R on Mar 27, 2020 21:04:29 GMT
thanks - I didn't think it was imperial and metric at the same time.
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Mar 28, 2020 11:24:15 GMT
Wing mirrors were listed as options on the P5 but never as an option in the P5B, however, a driver's door mirror was listed as an option on the P5B from Jan 1972, according to James Taylor's book.
I can't see any reference to measurements in it though and would have thought that that might be too detailed for the book.
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Post by Sam Bee on Mar 28, 2020 18:48:32 GMT
Thanks for pointing out the door mirror date. Means one on mine would be correct, an I shall take it that it was the same as those fitted in the factory to P6s.
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