lewis
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Post by lewis on Jan 22, 2020 12:46:01 GMT
Greetings one and all,
Just was interested if the Rover P5 had a collapsible steering column? I suspect not, but I have never found out. Did the car have any crushable zones al la P6. Again suspect not given 1958 technology, but Rover were always ahead of the pack on these things. Lewis
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jan 22, 2020 17:41:11 GMT
Greetings one and all, Just was interested if the Rover P5 had a collapsible steering column? I suspect not, but I have never found out. Did the car have any crushable zones al la P6. Again suspect not given 1958 technology, but Rover were always ahead of the pack on these things. Lewis You don't get those in a tank Lewis  |
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Jan 22, 2020 17:47:27 GMT
I suspect that the only crushable zones on the P5 are the padded foam on the dashtop  I would think that crash testing wasn't a feature of the testing process of the prototypes etc back in the mid-50's and I don't remember seeing any reference to crash-test vehicles, as there is with the P6. Seat belts weren't even available for the first couple of years. |
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Post by ray on Jan 22, 2020 19:22:22 GMT
I'm with John here, as most other cars now are light with crumple zones,... You might hear a slight noise and think "what was that" as you write off another modern jelly-mould... A real joy, sitting in the gentleman's club. 😊
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Post by Sam Bee on Jan 22, 2020 19:33:47 GMT
You do have hefty spring steel, full width, behind the bumpers, which are attached to the subframe. That should give protection in all but major collision
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Post by westoz on Jan 23, 2020 10:08:12 GMT
I would recommend fitting headrests if your model does not have them. They can always be removed temporarily if your car is being judged for originality.
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lewis
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Post by lewis on Jan 23, 2020 10:58:35 GMT
Thanks for the replies, yes its a solid little tank. as for head restraints mine is a Mark 11. Are there ones you can slip and slide off, so to speak ? Lewis
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Post by Warwick on Jan 23, 2020 11:53:11 GMT
Greetings one and all, Just was interested if the Rover P5 had a collapsible steering column? I suspect not, but I have never found out. Did the car have any crushable zones al la P6. Again suspect not given 1958 technology, but Rover were always ahead of the pack on these things. Lewis The P5 was probably 10 years out of date when it first went into production. Whereas the P6 was perhaps 10 years ahead of its time when it was released. |
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Post by westoz on Jan 23, 2020 22:40:38 GMT
Thanks for the replies, yes its a solid little tank. as for head restraints mine is a Mark 11. Are there ones you can slip and slide off, so to speak ? Lewis Sorry Lewis. I forgot that the Mk11 and earlier seats do not have the provision for headrests. I personally would fit MK 111 seats, but then my car is far from original, being a MK 111 upgraded to PB5. |
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Post by djm16 on Jan 24, 2020 1:28:23 GMT
** WARNING, PEDANT APPROACHING ** "You do have hefty spring steel" Actually, the bumper irons are soft / mild steel. You can tell that because you can straighten them with your bare hands (or in my case with a length of pipe attached to my bare hands, as they are not really bear hands). Why mild steel? Because it deforms, and in so doing halves the impulse transmitted to the car in an impact. Huh?  Suppose a vehicle of mass "m" hits your Rover head on at velocity "v". Assume for simplicity that the Rover is much heavier and barely moves. If the bumper irons were spring steel, the incoming vehicle will rebound with velocity close to "-v", assuming negligible damping etc in the bumper iron. The total momentum transferred to the Rover is then m*(initial velocity - second velocity) or m*(+v - -v), ie 2mv. If however the bumpers are soft iron and simply distort without rebound, then the incoming vehicle goes from +v to 0, and the momentum transferred to the Rover is only mv (half of the spring iron case). |
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lewis
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Post by lewis on Jan 24, 2020 12:52:30 GMT
Hi all, very interesting comments. Obviously when we buy a classic car we know that the safety technology isn't there. But on the other hand I'm sure we would always drive our Rover P5's with respect and factor in the age of the car. In many ways its a safe car because of this as our driving style ( I would hope ) is based on defensive driving, we don't want to lose our precious car to some idiot in a modern Sh*t box. Inertia reel seat belts are a must and I will be fitting them. Good period style driving mirrors and upgraded headlights. All possible without losing the originality of our vehicle. Some people say classic cars are not environmentally friendly. This is wrong, my P5 is 57 years old, as I guess most of our P5's are nearly at. How much CO 2 emissions have been saved by having a car that has not had to have replaced every four years with a new one, with all the resources that has gone into producing these cars at this cycle. Food for thought.
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Jan 24, 2020 18:31:35 GMT
Your post sums up some of the idiocy surrounding CO2 emissions, in much the same way people explain how they've saved / will save money by getting rid of a perfectly good car and spending thousands (or tens of thousands £s) on a car because "I'll get 5mpg better fuel economy". Madness.
Same with replacing numerous other perfectly good things simply because the new one uses a fraction less energy, so less CO2. Many of these new items are now also so complex that when they fail they're often thrown away as parts/labour to repair are so expensive.
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