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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 22, 2021 12:37:02 GMT
Hi Guys,
I have had an issue where the back wheels locked and the car screeched to halt which to be honest, could have been even more scary should it have been 2 minutes later as I was only doing 25 mph!
We are about to take the diff out and suspect that the Crown Wheel and Pinion has lost teeth or worse?
Is is possible to get new parts anywhere and recondition the current diff rather than replace with an unknown second hand diff which could have a short or unknown shelf life?
Kind regards
Craig
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Post by Jens Munk on Jan 22, 2021 13:33:16 GMT
You can get here:
or here:
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Post by lagain on Jan 22, 2021 16:41:05 GMT
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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 22, 2021 17:07:26 GMT
Thank you Jens,
when we remove the diff and check what we need hopefully Ashcroft's can supply the piece parts and we can rebuild it ourselves.
cheers Craig
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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 22, 2021 17:08:45 GMT
Thanks George,
may I ask what they charged you for doing it?
cheers Craig
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Post by barryr on Jan 23, 2021 0:03:04 GMT
People always seem to keep these things secret and I don't know why - probably fear of having been ripped off.
My view is that the more we talk about pricing the more standardised things become. I took my diff to a local place about 3 years ago for checking. I told them I thought it was fine but it was worth doing while the driveline was in bits. Cost was 150 quid and they said all was well but the bearings were a bit blued so replaced and set up again,
Actually I didn't get to refit until some time later and by the time I got the car on the road 2 years had passed. After a rough gear selection due to low gearbox oil a mighty bang came from the diff and I found the pinion slack. I stripped it out and took it back by which time the firm had moved. I was totally honest with them explaining it had not been driven more than 5 miles and was well out of warranty. It was still covered in assembly lube. The manager was fantastic, he confirmed the stamps were his company but that it wasn't set up correctly and offered to investigate it for me. I also explained the wrong length Land Rover bolts (metric) had been fitted to the flange which are captive.
They sorted it in a day and only charged me 50 quid for time to set up and replace the bolts. The boss thought one of his employees had done a foreigner as I dropped it off in a lunch hour and had no receipt - I was very happy though it was a lot harder to bench press it in to a fitted axle than when I had the whole lot lying on the floor pointing upwards!!
These diffs are very simple. Hope this helps?
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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 23, 2021 9:50:16 GMT
Thanks Barry
i think we can all be at the mercy of any garage but at least they fixed it in the end. The chap that help me rebuild my car is late seventies and knows differentials inside out so once we strip it out and understand the root cause, we want to see if we can buy the replacement parts and refurbish it.
The last thing i want is to have the back end lock up again as i (and anyone else travelling near me), could have been seriously injured or worse.
I will post pictures of the condition of the diff and hopefully the rebuild next week assuming we get the parts.
Thanks guys cheers Craig
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Post by lagain on Jan 23, 2021 19:06:11 GMT
Thanks George, may I ask what they charged you for doing it? cheers Craig Β£558
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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 27, 2021 15:08:57 GMT
Hi Guys,
after managing to get the diff out and get it stripped down its very plain to see that the bearings have collapsed. I am awaiting feedback from a bearing supplier hopefully later today to able to supply them.
I contacted Rimmer Brothers for the Banjo gasket which they had in stock so that that is great.
While taking the drums off its evident that i need brake shoes and Wadham's seem to be the only supplier and very expensive? Is there anyone else that stocks these and does not charge a huge shipping cost?
Or are there alternative parts for any other vehicle such as Land Rover etc?
Cheers Craig
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Post by Ken Nelson on Jan 27, 2021 19:10:20 GMT
I would think there should be shops near you that could put a new lining on your old metal shoes. I took my drums and shoes to a shop and they bonded new linings on and fitted them in for me.
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Post by stirlingmg on Jan 27, 2021 20:26:03 GMT
Thereβs always shoes on eBay for not too silly money
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Post by p5andrew on Jan 27, 2021 21:23:29 GMT
I purchased new shoes from Roverpart of Croydon last year. They were the original riveted type and were not too expensive. Quality was excellent and I have covered about 5000 miles since. The service was very good as well - very helpful. He also sells a package of new wheel cylinders and shoes at reasonable cost should need them. His contact details are:
ROVERPART OF LONDON
G Stacey
Farley
S Croydon
Surrey
CR2 7NE
United Kingdom
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Post by 3litrekiwi on Jan 28, 2021 8:07:39 GMT
I'm not getting the price thing here, the Roverpart shoes on ebay are Β£34.90, there are some for Β£29.50 and the JRW set are Β£30. Seems like much the same to me.
I received a new speedo cable from JRW today, looks really good. The local supplier wanted $NZ 135, the JRW supplied one cost me $76 delivered. Pretty happy with that, $36 of that was postage but that is just the price of living so far away!
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Post by craigydee70 on Jan 28, 2021 9:16:24 GMT
Thanks Andrew, I am on my way to collect them now. Many thanks everyone. cheers Craig
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jan 30, 2021 12:25:40 GMT
Series Land Rover LWB rear shoes are the same but if you can get hold of asbestos NOS which traders cannot sell these last longer
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Post by lagain on Jan 30, 2021 20:40:42 GMT
I last changed my rear shoes 18 years ago, so since then they have done about 55000 miles. They are Asbestos which seem to last for ever .
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Post by craigydee70 on Feb 2, 2021 12:07:39 GMT
Hi Guys, We have stripped the diff only to find that a bearing had totally collapsed causing the lock. By not trying to drive the car after it locked has stopped any damage occurring which is great news. We have managed to get the bearings and the gaskets from Rimmer Brothers and are now refurbing the original the diff. I toyed with the idea of simply replacing the broken one with a second hand one but the reality of what could have been a fatal accident has lead me to completely rebuild the current one for a safe piece of mind. As you can see from the pictures the little plastic bag has the contents of what was the bearing rollers . Rover Parts supplied new brake shoes so fingers crossed my Saloon will be back on the road later this week and back into winter slumber until the spring when I can fit new door cards in lovely leather. cheers Craig Attachments:
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Post by MikeβS-a-loon on Feb 2, 2021 12:57:24 GMT
You're wise to err on the side of caution when it comes to safety. All we squires of old machinery accept their inherent risk, and presumably drive within the limits of their limitations; but a mechanical failure along the lines of your experience should be a wake up call to us all in terms of proactive preventative maintenance. I confess I have been a little lackadaisical about things like diffs and transmissions.
By the way, the door cards are usually covered in vinyl, so save yourself a few bucks/quid and stick with originality! Leather doesn't grow on trees, you know...
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