Door seals P5B saloon

[bogbrush]

Does anyone know where I can obtain replacement rubber door seals for my 1967 P5B saloon?
I think the part numbers are 359953, 359954, 356788 and 356789?
The chap in Oz doesn't have any. (Old Rubber)
Thanks in anticipation, Bob in Devon

[lutz]

Dear Bob,
I replaced all of my rubber seals last year at my Rover P5b Coupe.
I boucht them by "https://www.jrwadhams.co.uk".
The seal fit and have a good quality.
Best regards
Lutz / Scharbeutz - Germany

[enigmas]

That's kind of weird. Scott's primary focus for years was Rovers. He's owned and modified several and is a member of the RCCA.

His catalogue listing for P5s is still extensive. Click on the link below.

www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au/Rover%20P5%20P5B%203litre%203.5litre.htm

[Mike’S-a-loon]

I got his last set, Vince! No doubt he has another batch coming through, though.

[davidg]

Bob i have a good stock of Scotts rubbers, i sell them over here
David Green
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[MK IA Norway Viking]

I have had new rubbers fitted to the doors of my 1969 P5B Saloon. Still it is very noisy inside the cabin at speeds in excess of 110 KPH/70 MPH. Is the car designed like this, or can better dorr rubbers improve the situation ?

[enigmas]

Rover P5s although lovely looking cars are an aerodynamic brick. My Coupe is relatively quiet at speeds up to 100 kph, over that wind noise becomes intrusive. A lot of the noise is due to turbulent air passing over the front pillars of the windscreen. Poor aerodynamics in this area contribute to the noise created. Perhaps fabricating custom air deflectors (trial & error) may reduce or minimise the turbulent air. If you recall, cars of the 50s and 60s often had front side window air deflectors made of clear or coloured plastic/perspex for driving with the windows open.

Taping tufts of wool thread to the front quarter window and screen pillar area may be a method of identifying the actual turbulence and designing a deflector to minimise it. Thin card and duct tape would be all that is required for an initial trial deflector. Later designs could be thermoformed from clear perpex/lexan or whatever is the most appropriate medium.

[MK IA Norway Viking]

That the root problem are aerodynamics is well understood, if the door seal rubber is not adequately sealing the gap between door and body, the noise will enter the cabin. 

Just look at what Kingsley Cars as well as (I believe) Overfinch have done for the Range Rover Classic - with improved door rubber seals they keep the noise outside the cabin.

From what I can see, all vendors of door rubbers offer something that is thin/narrow and not filling out the corners of the door.

An improvement has been offered for the rear doors, by fitting a rubber strip to shut / seal properly against the wheel arch.

It seems to me that a similar arrangement for the front doors will meet a warm embrace from P5 owners across the world. 

[3litrekiwi]

I had a comment from a friend when I sent him a photo of my partly assembled replacement engine, why not replace it with a V8? I have no problem with the idea and I did follow the same friend's suggestion many years ago, that I replace the 4 cylinder in my F series Vauxhall Victor with a SB chev. I did toy with the idea of a more modern six.

To me the IOE six is an interesting part of the car as is the straight cut non syncro first gear, overdrive and the somewhat loud "silence" over 50 mph. 

The car my wife uses as a daily driver is an E39 BMW, we have had a few of them, as once I find something I like, I seem to get stuck in a groove. Perhaps that is part of our classic car DNA. This one has had a new screen fitted. These cars need special plastic spacers used to get the screen in the right spot as the level at the transition to the roof is critical to eliminate wind noise from turbulunce. It seems the windscreen fitters didn't use them. This car suffers from just perceptable wind noise over 100km/h. If you look at the seals and screen area, it looks perfect so clearly this ever so slight stagger between the surfaces makes a difference.

Moving to the P5, given the smooth contour of the beemer or any other modern, my feeling is that a slightly louder voice is needed to hold a conversation, and a fair bit of wind noise is part of the experience as no matter how perfect the sealing, these cars have plenty of inherent noise generating contours.

I recently refitted the very convenient central glove box. The time spent creating a radio insert that more or less matched the original was fun, the required volume at highway speed didn't do it for me so I'm now happy again with the wind and music from under the bonnet.