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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2006 21:25:14 GMT
Here is a photograph of my p5b coupe with my halogen headlight conversion and my LED sidelights conversion with the lights on in the dark. Here is a picture of the old headlights.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 5, 2006 9:15:48 GMT
Looks good - I hope you have used a realy otherwise the console switch will soon burn out
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2006 19:51:46 GMT
Where do you fit a relay?
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 5, 2006 21:06:15 GMT
You would use the feed to your existing headlights to energize the relay then a separate feed from the LT +ve to one side of the relay switched contacts and the other side of the switched contacts to the headlights you would need another relay or a relay with a make and break for the dipped beam same procedure! I don't know what the wattage is of your new bulbs to work out the current for you!
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 6, 2006 18:42:07 GMT
If you use 30 amp relays it more than copes with the current of halogen lights. In fact I have four fitted, one for each dipped beam and one for each main beam. They are fused relays with 30 amp fuse.
The P5 Coupe was easier as I only used two relays, one for dipped and on for main beam. Those relays had twin contacts plus coil.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 6, 2006 21:09:22 GMT
You must have some big bulbs John or a lot of reserve built in 360 watts per relay = 720 watts per beam = 1.44kw max load capability
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 6, 2006 21:38:45 GMT
I tried Leds on the sidelights last winter (and other places see earlier threads) but went back to old fashioned bulbs after I left the the lights on one dark murky morning as I found they could not be seen from the side very well at all and neither did they show up well forwards on in brighter conditions. I do not think they are as good from a safety angle at all though they look nice!
Also the red "pips" were hardly visible in street lighting. I fitted them in the number plate light instead which does show an improvement
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 7, 2006 15:02:24 GMT
At least they won't burn out with that sort of safety margin. The only reason for fitting one for each light was that they are fused separately on the fuse box. In the case of the P5 Coupe they are not.
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 7, 2006 15:05:45 GMT
Phil, sounds like they are only of use for instrument lighting then after all.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 7, 2006 15:48:10 GMT
Yes as the P5 lenses are not designed for leds even the multidirectional types
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2006 15:19:50 GMT
Phil
I still can't work out why halogen headlamps need a relay when normal head lights did not have a relay. 12 volts at 65 watts takes the same current whether its halogen or 'ordinary' bulbs? I do understand that the electrics may be marginal and fitting a relay can only help reduce the load on switches that only just cope with the demand on them.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 9, 2006 16:44:13 GMT
That's the reason - the switch is likely to be past its best by now anyway some halogens are even higher rated than the standard high wattage sealed beams
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2007 21:10:02 GMT
Hi how do you get your fog lights on at the same time as the headlights
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 7, 2007 21:22:57 GMT
Modify the wiring via a relay
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Post by PatMcCoy on Feb 7, 2007 23:53:56 GMT
NO His headlights aint on It is a sidelight that you can see in the headlight You should not have headlights on if you have fog lights on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 8:25:30 GMT
Sounds like Vince wants to follow a modern trend and drive with headlights AND fog lights on together - I thought this was illegal? (Lots of drivers around here doing just that on a perfectly clear night - WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEIR EYE SIGHT? The whole point of P5 fog lights being independant of headlights was exactly that. Besides, all the lamps on at the same time only increases the drain on the battery and alternator - imagine on a cold and frosty night with heaters and heated rear screen on too!!
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Post by PatMcCoy on Feb 8, 2007 10:08:53 GMT
As freddy says its a illegal,But this car aint as i know the owner and have the same headlights They have a seprate side light in the headlight itself,and is wired to the side lights
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Post by RichardF on Feb 8, 2007 14:21:07 GMT
Guys,
I do not believe it's illegal to drive with headlights on and also fog lights at the same time (although it may be counter-productive). My Jaguar X-type is only 3 years old and allows me to do so.
Richard Southampton
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 8, 2007 15:02:38 GMT
It depends on the height from the road - the P5B versions are above the regulation 24" so can be used as Driving lights.
In fact a P5B saloon I once owned had long range sealed beam units fitted in place of the fog light versions. I still have one of these fitted on the nearside so that it picks out the kerb for a long way in front without the glare headlights dipped or main beam gives.
I have never seen any of these units for sale for years as they are clear glass and not like the inner 5" main beam units fitted to twin light cars like P6's Ford Capri's etc although these worrk quite well too.
The "Fog" type is also a special flat beam type used in fog so its a waste of energy using them for normal driving as the high power headlights in a P5B especially if converted to modern halogens should be more than adequate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 20:17:29 GMT
The headlights are not on, these are side lights. I bought new headlights that have a side light bulb built in at the bottom of the unit,and i don't have to change the hole unit when the bulb blows, i can now just change the bulb like modern cars.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 20:27:41 GMT
As freddy says its a illegal,But this car aint as i know the owner and have the same headlights They have a seprate side light in the headlight itself,and is wired to the side lights It is not illegal to have headlights and fog lights on at the same time,nowadays all modern cars have this its called technology!
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Post by stantondavies on Feb 8, 2007 21:00:18 GMT
It depends on the height from the road as to whether foglights are illegal in good weather. The figure of 15" comes to mind but I wouldn't swear to it.
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Post by alanzamartin on Jun 13, 2013 13:30:26 GMT
Hi P Body
I also would like to fitted the Helogen conversion and the LED sidelight and the two bonnet light Which supplies did you buy all conversion from? Can you send me the name thanks alan
My email alanzamartin@btinternet.com
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Post by davewright on Jun 13, 2013 14:10:10 GMT
Can you please tell me what headlamps you used for the conversion?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jun 13, 2013 17:58:15 GMT
Wipac Quadoptics have been around for years and readliy available and better than the standard uprated sealed beams. They come with plastic pods and new loom. Also cheap but good light (durability unknown) far Eastern version in separates form
See Vehicle Wiring Products.
Leds suitable for classics have improved a lot since this post started. Try Ultraleds but there are load others. Flashers need electronic flasher unit too and wiring mods to warning light on the the later clicker 2 version can fitted 1971 on approx (but anything can have been fitted since)
Loads more on SEARCH
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