miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 4, 2008 17:25:36 GMT
What´s missing here?  |
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Post by lagain on Oct 4, 2008 21:31:45 GMT
nothing, but my jack does not look like that
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jimsbruv
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Post by jimsbruv on Oct 4, 2008 21:51:46 GMT
maybe your stirrup pump ??
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 4, 2008 22:23:41 GMT
There are 3 clips not used (near the belt). Stirrup pump... never thought of that. Thanks. Is my jack not original? He does fit perfectly on the clips, but the crank does pop up a little behind the cover.
Miguel
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 5, 2008 7:44:24 GMT
P5B never had a pump all looks correct including the King Di*k jack  the jack should be between the two wood blocks with the strap over  Why when I call the jack by it's proper name I get "thingy" |
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 5, 2008 10:51:29 GMT
I couldnt help a smile also when I saw the name of the manufacter. In Portugal we call "monkey" to the jack...  Is King thingy also the brand of the tools in the tool tray? I also get thingy...  I guess we have a puritan forum software... |
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 5, 2008 11:57:06 GMT
The tool board in the boot was more than likely common to both the P5 and P5B in which case some of the spare clips would have been for the starter handle and the wheel hub removal tool.
I believe the tool tray also used 'King Dick' tools.
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Post by Warwick on Oct 6, 2008 0:00:37 GMT
P5B never had a pump all looks correct including the "King Dick" jack the jack should be between the two wood blocks with the strap over My jack is the same but I also have a pump. Shouldn't it be there John? It looks like Dorsetflyer has solved the problem of the over-sensitive software - use quotation marks. |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 6, 2008 6:16:31 GMT
I can see one listed for the P5 Warwick! I didn't get one with mine but I suppose it could have gone in the first 3+ years of ownership? I certainly have not seen many lying arround at David Greens  I wonder how many guys with a P5b have one? I just checked my tool board no spare clips for a Pump the holes are there |
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 6, 2008 14:10:51 GMT
If anyone has an 'Owners Handbook' this should list the tools pictorially in there.
The P5 handbook shows all the tools in the boot.
Unfortunately I no longer have my P5B so I can't check the board out.
If its at our monthly meet tonight I'll delve in to the boot and have a look.
My guess is that to keep costs down when the 'B' was launched the foot pump would have been deleted, bearing in mind accountants were starting to run companies around that time.
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 6, 2008 21:30:24 GMT
You´re right, it does come listed in the P5b owners handbook, not pictorially (I suppose you mean a photo or a drawing) thought. It has only the jack and the wheel brace, so mine its complete. Thanks
Miguel
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Post by Warwick on Oct 7, 2008 0:50:18 GMT
So mine must be a P5 pump that has been added by a previous owner.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 9, 2008 16:13:31 GMT
The tyre pump was deleted during Mk2 run - not many new P5 owners would have wanted to use it to blow up high pressure 6.70 x 15's it would have taken ages!!
Miguels jack is also incorrect as his is a 3 litre item. The wheel brace is not clipped in properly and the black clips held the 3 Litre wheel trim tool
Rover did use any parts that came to hand during strike periods!
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Post by Warwick on Oct 12, 2008 23:59:19 GMT
How does the 3-litre jack differ from the 3.5 Phil?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 13, 2008 16:23:56 GMT
Like Miguel's - it was the same as the late P4's
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 13, 2008 16:45:13 GMT
Any photos of a 3.5 jack? Just curiosity! Maybe with a smaller cranck...
How come did I get with a 3 litre jack? Stryke is a good reason.
The other day I meet a former mechanic of "Garagem Victoria", that was the company that imported Rovers to Portugal. It was a very interesting conversation. He among other things told me that they did some modifications to suite the taste of the buyer. For instance when I asked him about the air filter, elbows and inlet manifold he told me that was current procedure to chrome the filter and elbows and that the manifold was usually painted light grey. That does explain my engine finish. He also told me that the weird parcel self I got (all badly cut) was probably were a air conditioning was, and the hole in the wheel arch was the water outlet. He is currently a mechanic (with his own garage) specialized in Rover, Land Rover and MG. He works in almost all English cars. He was really happy to see my P5 and also told me that the car was in a very solid state (apart the obvious damage).
Miguel
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 13, 2008 16:53:32 GMT
I will try to get a picture but as I explained earlier Rover used any parts they had during parts shortages caused by industrial disputes.
The later P5B type is also inferior so its no surprise this was used instead although very few new P5B owners would have wanted to use one anyway which is why they look unused and so pristine.
Looking at at the parts list onlt one LHS was listed to cover all models from MK1's to P5B's so ultimately some changes had to be made to make it suitbale for early models. Same with the jack only later one could be got but early 3.5 litres (1968) did have the A frame jack which is far more stable than the 1 leg version of later ones.
What year was yours made?
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Too dark to get a decent picture
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Post by Warwick on Oct 13, 2008 23:03:54 GMT
I thought you were talking about subtle differences Phil. My jack looks like Miguel's.
So are you saying that a P5B jack has only one leg?
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 13, 2008 23:29:18 GMT
Phil, if you are asking me, the registration date is 15 February 1969 (engine: 84005**3A). Now thats a question that I have postponed: Early or later model?
Miguel
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 14, 2008 14:24:10 GMT
If the jack on the P5B has only one leg it brings it up to the same design as was fitted to the Ford Anglia 100E onwards through the Cortina range, and in fact most Fords around that era.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 14, 2008 18:31:38 GMT
Borderline so it may be correct - Chassis body number is the key but NEVER publish these on the WWW as they can be cloned
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 14, 2008 18:56:37 GMT
Ooppss!!!
Thanks Phil
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Post by dorsetflyer on Oct 15, 2008 13:13:14 GMT
Relax a little Miguel, you didn't necessarily give the chassis number, only the Engine number which could well be different.
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Oct 24, 2008 18:15:56 GMT
From the first picture you can see that the strap that holds the jack has perished. A gentile aunt, have offered her services in searching for new material to make a new one. Here it is... I´m not happy with the result, although my aunt did leave the house with a smile in her face, thinking I was really happy...  . She is a lovely and kind lady and dont want to break her heart. What material is this, not elastic or it would tear with the gromets... any comments?  Miguel |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 24, 2008 18:30:17 GMT
Very good idea!
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the jack should be between the two wood blocks with the strap over 
I guess we have a puritan forum software...
I wonder how many guys with a P5b have one?
. She is a lovely and kind lady and dont want to break her heart.