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Post by Warwick on Oct 22, 2008 0:20:53 GMT
Happy Birthday P5.
London Motor Show.
22nd of October 1958.
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Post by PatMcCoy on Oct 22, 2008 0:33:59 GMT
You got in there quick ;D
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 22, 2008 19:38:37 GMT
Trouble was it was neither ready for production or had enough to sell till well into 1959 and they did not sort the problems out until the Litre Mk2c in 1964!  Went downhill from then  |
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Post by Warwick on Oct 23, 2008 0:33:37 GMT
You got in there quick ;D Each day has been well-used by us long before it arrives in the UK. |
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Post by Warwick on Oct 24, 2008 1:10:44 GMT
Trouble was it was neither ready for production or had enough to sell till well into 1959 and they did not sort the problems out until the Litre Mk2c in 1964! Went downhill from then Phil, Not having James Taylor handy, and you probably being the next best thing, when was the Mk.II released? In fact what is the chronology of the model and its various incarnations? The forum is running nice and fast again. Did Admin oil something? |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 24, 2008 9:18:49 GMT
With credit to James Taylor
Sept 1958 Mk1 saloon, auto manual, manual + overdrive optional power steering and disk brakes! then folowed by numerous changes almost evey month
Sept 1961 Mk1a (no window louvres)
Sept 1962 Mk2a (Westlake head remote manual gearstick) & Coupe
Dec 1962 Mk2b (saloons only std power steering) No Mk2b Coupes
Mar 1964 -Dec 1965 Mk2c (various trim/stronger engine)
Sept 1965 Mk3 (BW 35 auto box P5B seats and external side trims etc)
Oct 1967 P5B A (3.5 Litre V8 and console)
Sept 1968 B (3½ Litre D,2,1 trans, thin front seat back)
Feb 1969 C (Dec 68 for exports) AED
Sept 1969 D (Downshift cable at rear of head)
Sept-Dec 1970 (straight bladed fan & theif proof coil)
Sept 1973( BW 35 type 303 improved autobox)
June 1973 (final cars built - many mothballed)
Marc 1974 - Manual choke conversion offered
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Post by eisdielenbiker on Oct 24, 2008 10:45:00 GMT
What does that mean ? Put on storage for a while ?
Mark
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Post by Warwick on Oct 24, 2008 10:54:23 GMT
Thanks Phil.
Does that mean the Mk.2a is a rare beast?
Mine must be a P5B D then. March (I think) 1970.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 24, 2008 13:06:27 GMT
The Mk2c is actually more common and was cherished more so it survived earlier more quirky and faulty versions. Its regarded as the pinnacle of P5 development and the classic - the P5B was just a stop-gap update to trial the engine for other cars. P6B and Range Rover etc.
Warwick's is a D model
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2008 20:11:24 GMT
The early mk I, was not so fun. I know I have owned one. A early -59, with drum brakes, no overdrive and no power steering. Overdrive was an option 59 but disc brakes became standard from sept-59 and power steering became an option in September -60.
The electrics was no god, I had a Lucas C45 PV5 dynamo with only 22 amp, not sufficient to use your dipped headlights and wiper at the same time. I also had a foot-pump operated windscreen washer. The sound damping was not in the same class as later cars.
I think the best P5 is mk IIc and mk III. Now I own a mk IIa coupé -64, but I could not find any mk IIc or mk III coupé in Sweden (it is only five drivable altogether).
Regards
Lars
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 24, 2008 21:49:11 GMT
Hear Hear - the 30A dynamo was hardly much better - it was not usual to drive in towns or places with headlights on at night in the UK. Mk2's were the first to offer the heated rear screen the dynamo output could certinaly not keep up with this when light, blower and wipers were on as well.
The Mk2 also had far superior sprung seats without the thick foam blocks (except Coupe rear seat cushions)
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Post by Warwick on Oct 24, 2008 22:50:29 GMT
The Mk2c is actually more common and was cherished more so it survived earlier more quirky and faulty versions. Its regarded as the pinnacle of P5 development and the classic - the P5B was just a stop-gap update to trial the engine for other cars. P6B and Range Rover etc. Warwick's is a D model So what makes you put the IIc ahead of the III Phil? |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 24, 2008 23:30:46 GMT
Poorer seats, less room, cheaper less refined autobox, wide side trim, ugly grill badge, no nice duo-tones on saloons & thinner steel. It did have better electrics -ve earth 12 fuses. It was just a transitional model to the V8 - only the engine, grille, internal console & Rostyles really differed from the V8 although the V8 is a little faster the overall drive of a Mk2 is far smoother, relaxing and quieter especially in the auto's
The central dash time clock was also far handier and the lack of the bulky gear console made more room in the front
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Post by Warwick on Oct 26, 2008 7:57:15 GMT
Thanks Phil.
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