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Post by denis23 on Oct 7, 2009 21:00:46 GMT
Yes, actually Amazon is fine car, but there is too many of them in Sweden, so value is down.
I know, that MK II manual is fastest one. But don`t forget, 90% of them is RHD, and here manual is really sucks. What is interesting: is this Sweden cars originally RHD or not? Sweden has right hand drive system until 1968, or am I wrong?
Embassy car might be even with some Cold War history, so, again very cool...Almost every Rover I know has fascinating history...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2009 5:49:39 GMT
Yes we changed from driving on the left side to the right side in September 1967. But for some reason we have always had only LHD cars. I think the fact that we had only LHD cars made it possible to change from driving on the left side. All Swedish sold Rovers are LHD original. You can see that on the cars serial number: 773 = MK II LHD manual saloon export, 778=MK II LHD aut, saloon export. 738= MK II manual coupe LHD export. 743= MK II aut coupe LHD export.
You will find all this data in James Taylors excellent book "Rover P5 & P5b the complete story". You will find it on Amazon. It is the "bible" for all P5 lovers.
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Lars
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Post by denis23 on Oct 8, 2009 15:56:16 GMT
I just bought this book on Amazon. Unfortunately only paper back left. Thank you with information!
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Denis
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Post by Warwick on Oct 8, 2009 22:35:51 GMT
I've just been looking at the photo of your car Lars. Very nice.
I have a question.
How do you manage to do circle burn-outs in a 3-litre? Or were those marks already on the road when you arrived?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 8:01:57 GMT
Everything is possible with a manual ;D
Lars
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Post by denis23 on Oct 9, 2009 21:36:54 GMT
Lars, I spoke today regarding this embassy 3-litre and gents told me that it`s sold. What ever, it`s not available anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 21:55:52 GMT
OK, Capital Car AB is still the registered owner. But it is possible that it is exported to another EU country. In that case the Swedish register don't change owner before they get notification from the new country that the car is registered there. I know I once sold a P6b to Denmark, it took a year before they changed the register in Sweden.
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Lars
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Post by denis23 on Oct 12, 2009 19:28:10 GMT
Sweden is gently loved milking cow in sense of classic car importing for many countries))) - ok, actually first should be UK, but you guys saved by steering wheel at wrong side.
As swedish guys (and girls too) prefers "raggare" (old american cruiseirs) instead of european tin baskets, so Sweden now is endless source for old European classic for all of Europe - there is still enormous concentracion of old cars, especially Volvos and Mercedeses. Rovers and WW2 Dodge trucks too. .
Wikipedia: "Due to the raggare culture there are more restored 1950s cars in Sweden than in the entire USA and although only two 1958 Cadillac convertibles were sold in Sweden there are now 200 of them in Sweden. Between 4000 and 5000 classic US cars are imported to Sweden each year"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2009 20:33:22 GMT
Thats right, the old car movement in Sweden is mostly about old "Americans" But we still have a lot old "Europeans" I think it was because we where wealthy after the war, so a lot of Swedes could afford new cars in the fifties and sixties. The most common "upper Class" car in the sixties was Mercedes 220 S, that was cheaper in Sweden than a Rover P5. Rover P5 was a really exclusive car in Sweden owned by industrialists and the queen. Our Queen in the sixties (married to Gustav IV) owned a Rover. I think it was because she was born a Mountbatten. Volvo have always been the most common car in Sweden, in the sixties everybody owned a Amazon, normal workers could afford to buy a Amazon, a car for the ordinary swede.
Lars
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Post by denis23 on Oct 13, 2009 21:05:09 GMT
I just thinked, what car was used by goverment and royal family of Sweden before Volvo becomes a luxury car.
Here in Estonia we have one 244 Lang being used by royal family, but before 164 arrives, there was not any domestic luxobarges in Sweden (ok, if we not take in account Suggas)
...and in rural areas of Sweden is still a lot, very lot of Amazons and Beatles around, even as everyday drivers.
And yes, Mercedes 220s is one another car to obtain in Sweden. Actually at very affordable price.
I just reading Per Wahlöö beautiful book "Mord på 31:a våningen" (Death of 31 dept) about 60-ties Sweden, there is very clearly showed atmosphere of the swedish wealthy society of 60-ties.
And one really beautiful car is Volvo 164, in my opinion much better than contemporar Mercedeses, and still obtainable in Sweden. very nice "nordic" design.
Other passion is Volvo Sugga, military variant, but it`s pricey too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2009 21:47:01 GMT
Volvo have never been seen as a luxury car in Sweden, perhaps 164 but not the others. The Royal family always had Cadillacs, King Gustav V and Gustav VI (dead 1973) always was convoyed in large black Cadillacs. I don't think they could drive. The late queen Louise owned a Rover, but I think it was chauffeur driven. Our present King Carl XVI bought a Mercedes 350 SEL when He became King 1973. He have always been interested in cars and have for example participated in Mille Miglia. He normally drive his Ferrari.
Lars
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Post by monsieurboz on Jun 4, 2021 10:27:13 GMT
Hi there; I note that the body number you quote here is very early in LHD production - mine is 84300046A, sold new in the Netherlands, now resident in France. I've been trying to establish the actual number made, just for interest, but thus far without success.
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Post by dmaxwell on Jun 4, 2021 12:40:53 GMT
If you can find a copy of the James Taylor book on the P5/P5B, it has a treasure trove of information like that. I think that the total production was about 22000 over the entire run (I'm at work so do not have my copy handy to check that number).
David California
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Post by MK IA Norway Viking on Jun 7, 2021 9:35:12 GMT
The P5 in 3 litre 6-cyl LHD MK I and IA version was made in small numbers. From my information, a total of 399 cars were made with manual gearbox and a total of 450 in automatic version. Not sure how many MK II and MK III were made in LHD. Geoff Moorshead should know
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Post by Sam Bee on Jun 7, 2021 19:25:26 GMT
My book tells me for LHD:
Mk 11 Saloon 21 manual, 28 auto; Coupe 8 manual, 9 auto.
Mk 111 Saloon 159 manual, 653 auto: Coupe 88 manual, 480 auto.
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