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Post by denis23 on Sept 19, 2009 7:29:38 GMT
Hi Warwick.
Well, thank you. World is smaller than we think) Interesting mention about ferries. Why do you think so?
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Post by Warwick on Sept 19, 2009 9:19:06 GMT
I've done a bit of checking Denis and I was wrong. It seems that they are sister ships of some of your ferries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Superfast_IIII seem to recall that there was a serious incident with one of your ferries a few years ago when water entered the ship through the front loading ramp during a storm. Our ferries were inspected to see if there was a similar problem with their ramps. I got the impression at the time that they were former Estonian vessels. However Wikipedia states that they were Greek ferries MS Superfast III and IV. I should have checked first rather than relying on my memory.
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Post by denis23 on Sept 19, 2009 11:54:22 GMT
Yes, I just thinked, that you mentioned "superfasts". 2 of them working on the Rostock-Helsinki route and owned by estonian company Tallink, and third is rented out. List of almost all estonian ferries is here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TallinkAs "serious incident" you probably remember sinking of Estonia ferry in autumn 1994. Biggest peacetime maritime disaster in Europe after Titanic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia
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Post by denis23 on Sept 19, 2009 12:27:07 GMT
Little off - Tallinn early spring panorama view with 5 ferries. In summer there are also up to dozen cruise ship, but not in spring.
Well, medieval churches and towers, skyscrapers, ferries and if you will make picture larger will see swans flying over the city.
Now there is Rover too)
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Post by glennr on Sept 19, 2009 15:10:52 GMT
Hi Denis, welcome to the forum. Your car must be the only one in Estonia perhaps the whole of the Baltic states. It must have cost a few Kroons Nice looking example. I have sent you a PM
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Post by Warwick on Sept 20, 2009 6:32:24 GMT
Thanks Denis, it certainly is a beautiful part of the world.
I don't think that the incident was as serious as a sinking. Our ships weren't purchased until 2002 so it would be something that happened after that I think.
I'll have to do a bit of research because I'm relying too much on memory and guesses.
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Post by denis23 on Sept 20, 2009 7:15:32 GMT
Offcourse it might be also something regarded with Tallink Superfasts. What is interesting, that is nobody talked about this here.
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Post by Warwick on Sept 20, 2009 23:44:17 GMT
I haven't been able to find anything else Denis. Here's some general info on our ships. users.nex.net.au/~reidgck/bass-s.htmI don't remember the Estonian accident in the '90s - although I would have heard about it on the news at the time.
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Post by glennr on Sept 21, 2009 9:45:04 GMT
I don't remember the Estonian accident in the '90s - although I would have heard about it on the news at the time. I remember this well. It was not long after the Zeebrugge ferry disaster in the English channel. Although the Zeebrugge ferry did not completly sink (it capsized) I remember the Estonia ferry floundered in deep water in the Baltic sea and over 900 lives were lost. It seemed it was the same reason why the Zeebrugge sank. They, (the crew) for some strange reason left the bow doors open. 187 died.
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Post by harvey on Sept 21, 2009 12:33:18 GMT
Zeebrugge was as you say the bow doors being left open, but the Estonian disaster was the result of the very heavy sea conditions ripping the bow visor off the front of the ship, and as it was in deep water it sank completely rather than capsizing and laying on the sandbank as the Herald Of Free Enterprise did. Bow visors were more difficult to lock into the closed position and after this they are no longer used IIRC.
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Post by denis23 on Sept 22, 2009 18:50:20 GMT
It was storming weather, but nothing unpredictable taking in account place and time.
If you look to the bow gate so called "Atlantic lock" construction of m/s Estonia, you will probably valuate is as "engineering idiotism", with zero proof.
and generally, Estonia has not builded for sail between Tallinn and Stockholm in the open sea, it was shore ferry builded for Helsinki-Stockholm route.
Sad truth...
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Post by patrick on Oct 3, 2009 10:52:43 GMT
Bonjour,
The menne is in France in the Oise 60250, it is one 3 liters coupé of 1963 and it comes from Italy. Work of current restoration(catering). Long life in this site and fabulous car. Cordialement, Patrick
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Post by Warwick on Oct 5, 2009 0:00:02 GMT
Bonjour Patrick,
Thankyou for listing you car here. One for France added. Good luck with the restoration.
Regards, Warwick.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2009 8:56:08 GMT
Hi Everyone Anoither Kiwi here!. Tho im P5 less at the moment hopefuly in the future i will acquire one. ;D Plan to join a Rover club over here if i ever get one.Anyway i have always liked P5s as kinda my father showed me a pic of one that was for sale near me. Been lurking these forums looking at the awesome pics and reading quite a bit but my account got shut off. Probaly as i didnt post and was inactive etc. So i remade it and am now posting to introduce my self etc. Besides not currently having a P5 am currently driving a Isuzu Vehicross, Feel free to google it and see how weird it is Aaron. Hi Warwick We have a few P5s in New Zealand, I acquired a 1969 P5B Saloon earlier this year having admired these since I was a lad. Its in pretty good nick but requires frequent attention! What a great resource this forum is, some of your earlier posts have been most helpful in resolving the odd problem for someone not overly mechanically minded. Cheers Murray Hi Murray cool to see another kiwi on here, Is yours a brown P5B that was for sale earlier this year. Havent spotted any p5s in wellington lately tho there was a coupe for sale at the British car day out we head here a few months ago.
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Post by Warwick on Oct 15, 2009 23:45:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 3:30:11 GMT
Hi Warwick, Thanks for the welcome. Yea theres only 30 or so over here on our Vehicross forums theres a few aussie guys. Something will pop up seem to see the odd p5b for sale as well not just p5s in no rush. Wonder what ill find
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Post by glennr on Oct 16, 2009 6:31:11 GMT
Hi Aaron AKA "Sprey" Welcome to the forum, nice to see yet another antipodean association being made to the forum
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 17:01:39 GMT
Now dont up set any one Ireland is further away from the UK than France...? so why did Ireland get excluded..?
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Post by glennr on Oct 22, 2009 19:31:28 GMT
A very valid point Kanter. What car are you driving?
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Post by Warwick on Oct 23, 2009 0:22:08 GMT
Entirely my fault Kanter. I assumed that Ireland being the only other right-hand drive country anywhere near the UK, P5s would be relatively plentiful, unlike left-hand drive Europe and far-flung parts of the globe.
The aim was to have one post where it was easy for someone in a place where P5s are thin on the ground to quickly find another P5 forum member in their own country - and to get an idea of where these cars may have spread and survived.
It hasn't been as successfully as I'd initially hoped, because there are many "foreigners" on the forum who have not introduced themselves in this thread. Possibly because they are longstanding members and everyone knows where they come from, or because they never look at threads other than the P5 section or the P5B section. However, those who have posted have provided us with many interesting stories and locations.
So if Ireland isn't littered with P5s and someone wants to post an intro here, please feel free to do so.
Cheers, Warwick.
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Post by glennr on Oct 23, 2009 7:42:58 GMT
You have done brilliant Warwick. I have made via your original post contact with some of our overseas enthusiasts and have read some interesting stories. Without your thread this would not of happened as easily
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2009 11:28:03 GMT
I under stand the LHD point so that makes sence, but there where not that manny p5s in Ireland compared to MB or Jags, and manny that are there now are UK imports from the last few years, with reg ZV...!
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 23, 2009 12:14:42 GMT
Ireland had and still has punitive road taxes for cars over 2 Litres - classics are free or very cheap
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Post by glennr on Oct 23, 2009 14:39:04 GMT
;D I am a Geordie does that qualify Good question John. Any plans to split from the Union? If he got the chance,I'm sure he would
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Post by Warwick on Oct 24, 2009 4:07:22 GMT
wey i man What did he say?
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