I seem to recall that there was a serious incident with one of your ferries a few years ago when water entered the ship through the front loading ramp during a storm. Our ferries were inspected to see if there was a similar problem with their ramps. I got the impression at the time that they were former Estonian vessels.
However Wikipedia states that they were Greek ferries MS Superfast III and IV. I should have checked first rather than relying on my memory.
I don't remember the Estonian accident in the '90s - although I would have heard about it on the news at the time.
I remember this well. It was not long after the Zeebrugge ferry disaster in the English channel. Although the Zeebrugge ferry did not completly sink (it capsized) I remember the Estonia ferry floundered in deep water in the Baltic sea and over 900 lives were lost. It seemed it was the same reason why the Zeebrugge sank. They, (the crew) for some strange reason left the bow doors open. 187 died.
Zeebrugge was as you say the bow doors being left open, but the Estonian disaster was the result of the very heavy sea conditions ripping the bow visor off the front of the ship, and as it was in deep water it sank completely rather than capsizing and laying on the sandbank as the Herald Of Free Enterprise did. Bow visors were more difficult to lock into the closed position and after this they are no longer used IIRC.
The menne is in France in the Oise 60250, it is one 3 liters coupé of 1963 and it comes from Italy. Work of current restoration(catering). Long life in this site and fabulous car. Cordialement, Patrick
Hi Everyone Anoither Kiwi here!. Tho im P5 less at the moment hopefuly in the future i will acquire one. ;D Plan to join a Rover club over here if i ever get one.Anyway i have always liked P5s as kinda my father showed me a pic of one that was for sale near me.
Been lurking these forums looking at the awesome pics and reading quite a bit but my account got shut off. Probaly as i didnt post and was inactive etc. So i remade it and am now posting to introduce my self etc.
Besides not currently having a P5 am currently driving a Isuzu Vehicross, Feel free to google it and see how weird it is
Hi Warwick We have a few P5s in New Zealand, I acquired a 1969 P5B Saloon earlier this year having admired these since I was a lad. Its in pretty good nick but requires frequent attention! What a great resource this forum is, some of your earlier posts have been most helpful in resolving the odd problem for someone not overly mechanically minded.
Hi Murray cool to see another kiwi on here, Is yours a brown P5B that was for sale earlier this year.
Havent spotted any p5s in wellington lately tho there was a coupe for sale at the British car day out we head here a few months ago.
Entirely my fault Kanter. I assumed that Ireland being the only other right-hand drive country anywhere near the UK, P5s would be relatively plentiful, unlike left-hand drive Europe and far-flung parts of the globe.
The aim was to have one post where it was easy for someone in a place where P5s are thin on the ground to quickly find another P5 forum member in their own country - and to get an idea of where these cars may have spread and survived.
It hasn't been as successfully as I'd initially hoped, because there are many "foreigners" on the forum who have not introduced themselves in this thread. Possibly because they are longstanding members and everyone knows where they come from, or because they never look at threads other than the P5 section or the P5B section. However, those who have posted have provided us with many interesting stories and locations.
So if Ireland isn't littered with P5s and someone wants to post an intro here, please feel free to do so.
You have done brilliant Warwick. I have made via your original post contact with some of our overseas enthusiasts and have read some interesting stories. Without your thread this would not of happened as easily
I under stand the LHD point so that makes sence, but there where not that manny p5s in Ireland compared to MB or Jags, and manny that are there now are UK imports from the last few years, with reg ZV...!