My original idea was that anyone reading this thread for the first time would start on Page 1 and they'd see the list of countries. They would then know whether or not there was a posting from their country and they could search the following pages to find it.
Phil and Admin,
Are you able to edit other people's posts, or is it only possible to move or delete them? If you can it would be handy if you could change the heading of each person's introduction, replacing with the name of their country. That would make finding a particular country easier using Search, or when just skimming through the pages.
People who have posted here already could edit their own of course but there will probably be some who don't log on often and won't see this request.
I've amended the reference to Ireland in the first post by the way.
Geordies can only be understood after moderate consumption of Newcaslte Brown. Even then it may be difficult if you do not meet tham in the Red Ballon. Need to check if you're in one of their export countries.
By the way Warwick whilst in Ibiza in September and October(an island full of party goers and heavy beer drinkers) the whole island ran out of Fosters. Ran out of nothing else just Fosters. The whooole island. Having seen the TV ads and the enthusiiasm behind the brand and the stop at nothing conquest of world markets and presuming that the Australian owners must be livid at the thought that an entire island could run out of their best selling product I mailed HQ in Oz. I got a mail back after three days saying that I should get in touch by post or phone with the distributors...in the UK. I mailed back saying that it was their problem and not mine and that their answer seemed to convey the same lack of interest in their business as the priginal problem...and three weeks later have yet to receive a reply. Am now a Stella fan.
Conclusion...after a good start your country is beginning to resemble the UK!!
BTW saw no P5's on Ibiza. Many brand new Rangies however.
Foster's was the main brand of C.U.B. (Carlton & United Breweries) until probably the late '70s or early '80s when they started their international push (from memory). But I don't it has much of a market here now. Apart from when they sponsored the Melbourne GP or Melbourne Cup, I can't recall seeing any advertizing. Victoria Bitter would be their main brand here.
The best readily available lagers here would be Cascade Premium (now owned by CUB, who changed their name to Foster's Group) and James Boag now owned by San Miguel. Both are Tasmanian and from old breweries.
I seem to recall having this conversation ages ago - with Admin?
Newcastle Brown is a very potent brown ale."Little landmines" as an American friend of mine refers to the Belgian Duvel bottles. VB is well known as its plastered all over Ponting and his colleagues. Must help Oz sales. Whether it helps UK sales is questionable given that the Aussies are too good for us most of the time.
Sounds like Fosters is no longer Oz other than being licensed as a brand name. Which explains why HO cannot/will not answer physical distribution questions.
No, Fosters is still a Melbourne company. It's just that when they decided to push Fosters heavily in export markets a couple of decades ago, the locals switched to VB. It's so long ago that I'm having trouble remembering as it all just evolved over many years. Fosters of course is a lager while VB is a bitter, but still a lager, not an ale. To complicate things, about 20 years ago they produced a Fosters bitter (wasn't bad), but that seemed to disappear after awhile. When CUB decided to get into wine and took over several wineries here, then Beringer in the US, and then they took over Southcorp Wines here which had grown out of the old South Australian Brewing (Swan Lager) beer and wine empire. At that point they decided that since Fosters was their main brand overseas they would change their name from CUB to Fosters Group. I've spent a lot of time working at their Abbotsford Brewery in Melbourne over the years. The first time was probably 25 years ago when they were producing Guiness at Abbotsford under licence. The home beer market used to be divided by state loyalties going back 100 years, but they all moved into each other's home markets a couple of decades ago and then amalgamations and take-overs occurred. Another cycle that always seemed to be superimposed on all this was the emergence of small specialist brewers who would take a large market share away from the big guys over 5 to 10 years, and then they would be taken over by the big brewers who would retain their brands. And then after say another 10 years a new batch of smaller brewers would emerge and the cycle is repeated. As to whether Fosters in Europe comes out of a company owned brewery in the UK, or from another brewer producing it under licence, I don't know.
Chris (are you English? for me this also includes being Geordie) perhaps you're right... but if it inspires your opponents cricketing success?
Warwick as ever thanks for all your info. I destroyed the thread integrity by going from Geordie inspired car love (at least thats what I understood him to be saying) to Oz beer physical distribution failings and... as ever you came up with most of the goods. I wwill no longer destroy thois threads integrity other than saying that I am now back on Veltins. If Germany had a cricket team perhaps they would also wear VB shirts?
Have you got that P76 going yet Chris? And if not; why not?
No not yet Warwick, I did make soft attempt to get her fired up about 2 years ago. But she would not start and I quickly lost interest probably had a lot to do with the fuel pump. I had swapped the unit of the P76 with one on a 3500s which I had a suspicion it's fuel pump was faulty.. Well the 3500s started and P76 did not and that situation has not advanced from there. The P76 being on the property is still very touchy subject when the wife decides to discuss the amount of cars on the property. Anyway the P76 is in the garage with my sons SD1 behind it and that is not going anywhere for the time being, so the P76 is reasonably safe. It will probably be my retirement project. Plus the boot makes a great work bench!, the car is completly covered over and I have bit of carpet over the top of the boot and when I need to spread anything out to work on this comes a very handy working space. Then there are the cats they both like sleeping on it and who am I to deprive them of a comfortable sleeping spot. And I do not want to talk about cricket.
Following the popularity of this thread, the subject of P5 owners abroad came up at a recent committee meeting and whether we should have a dedicated section for our overseas Rover enthusiasts. Nothing technical to be posted, simply as a point of contact/meeting along with some info on you,your car and a photo or two, or three.
Perhaps a poll, based on which continent - specifying countries would be too complicated.
Speaking for myself, I don't think a dedicated section for the non UK P5 enthusiasts would work too well. There are too few of us in any one country (or maybe just in the US) for the contacts to be meaningful. Just my opinion.
You've done the right thing. It obviously would depend on the level of support. Hence your question. I'm game if others are.
When I lived in Southern Cal I would have loved to have seen a P5B. Although it depends on where Tehachapi is...I'll have to look it up!
People could just enter their alias (sign on name) and country. To just say Europe would be less helpful. I'm sure many would be interested to know that there is in fact another owner/member close by and to have the opportunity for contact. Whether in their home country or when travelling. Might cost Migual a few beers though.
I am very much in favor of a section for non UK owners. Fiirst there are allot more P5s out in the world then many are aware of and what better way to find them by making us lonely owners feel welcome. Hey and the club needs all the members it can get
This is also a great way overseas members can connect.
If your in the USA or Canada send me an email at email@example.com and find out about the US National Rover event ROVEAMERICA 10 held this June 18th thru 20th www.roveramerica.com
Merry Christmas Dirk. Looks like you're in for a bit of snow soon - judging by news broadcasts this morning. I hope you've got that Rover storage rack covered.
Thanks to Admin's new Overseas section, I think this thread has served its purpose and us (we?) foreigners can post our introductions as separate threads within the section.
However, I would like to suggest that anyone posting begins their Subject Heading with the name of their country. This will help others who may be searching when the section is more crowded with threads.
Perhaps Admin could head the section with a similar request, and he or one of the other moderators could go through existing posts in this thread and insert the country name into each subject heading.
Good idea about putting the country in the title - I have added it to the other post.
Rather than try and rename all ten pages on this thread, may I suggest that if we have future post titled with the country of origin Spain e.g.' SPAIN - I love my P5' then over time other locals could add to the thread?