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Post by Gordon Harrower on Dec 27, 2009 15:05:34 GMT
Here is my 1963 Mk IIa Saloon. It was imported to Colorado, via San Francisco, in 1963, went to Texas a couple of years ago, and came to Virginia in 2009. I've rebuilt the brake and clutch hydraulics, but am shut down by bad weather at the moment. Meanwhile, I'll start gathering parts for anticipated needs, such as seat belts (it never had any), undamaged center-front bumper section, a few bits of trim for the interior, and, not least, tires. Attachments:
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Dec 27, 2009 16:33:57 GMT
Looks a good solid car  keep looking there are loads of bits sadly mostly overhere  |
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Post by glennr on Dec 27, 2009 17:09:11 GMT
Here is my 1963 Mk IIa Saloon. It was imported to Colorado, via San Francisco, in 1963, went to Texas a couple of years ago, and came to Virginia in 2009. I've rebuilt the brake and clutch hydraulics, but am shut down by bad weather at the moment. Meanwhile, I'll start gathering parts for anticipated needs, such as seat belts (it never had any), undamaged center-front bumper section, a few bits of trim for the interior, and, not least, tires. A nice example with the original export wing badge. I have/will send you an e mail  |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Dec 27, 2009 23:29:55 GMT
The wing badges (a Mk1 boot lid design) were not supposed to be fitted to export RCoNA Mk2's - A US road test report of 1962 did not have them although some RCoNA MK1's did - production UK MK1's ones did not have them ever. Unusual that it is manual/od too for the US even though 342 LHD exports were made compared to only 42 BW-DG autos. Does it have the then optional power steering?
Missing the rare grille badge too!
Still a lovely car though and pics of if interior etc?
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Dec 28, 2009 13:22:23 GMT
Hey Phil,
Actually, it has the grille badge, but it's cracked and therefore faded--I'd welcome a good one. This is the third P5 my family has owned (the others were a 1965 Coupe bought new, and a 1963 Saloon), and all had the wing badges, 4-speed w/OD, and power steering. I'll post a picture of the interior when I get home.
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Post by dmaxwell on Dec 28, 2009 19:10:58 GMT
There is a place in Durham North Carolina, called Flying Circus English Cars that says they have some P5s as parts cars. Not too far from you. I haven't tried to buy anything from them yet so I don't know how their service is. The web address is www.flycircusenglishcars.comDavid Maxwell Tehachapi, Ca |
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Dec 28, 2009 21:49:12 GMT
Hi David,
I've dealt with them. They're very nice but exceedingly expensive (e.g. $100 for a hub cap). The parts cars are Mk IIIs, both in pretty wretched shape, exposed to the weather. They have lots of pictures of them on their web site, so you can see what might be there, but I generally look to the British guys for parts.
Gordon.
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Dec 29, 2009 0:04:46 GMT
I can only upload one picture at a time, it seems. I've got one of the back seat, but it's not very exciting! Better shape than the fronts, though.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Dec 29, 2009 10:47:28 GMT
Same colour as my Mk2c Coupe - except look to be in better condition! Rare to see the correct gear change gaitor which has not faded/perished which are now very rare as are unfaded red carpets/tunnel cover.
Wonder if the the importer locally fitted or specified the wing badges as although the UK Rover Co Ltd had an interest it was an independent US company
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Post by Warwick on Dec 30, 2009 3:47:31 GMT
Hi Gordon,
I presume you are aware of Dirk Burrowes and his legion of US Rover contacts?
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Dec 30, 2009 15:43:51 GMT
Yes, of course! Dirk is kind of the Rover kingpin here, very supportive and generous. Rovers aren't well known here, and he encourages U.S. owners to support each other with parts, information.
As for the wing badges, it might just be one of those Rover inconsistencies. My grandfather ordered his 1965 Coupe from the factory (I have all the correspondence), had it delivered in Italy, where he was staying at the time, and it had the wing badges. Our previous 1963 Saloon, meanwhile, was delivered to Ambassador George Kennan, its original owner, in Scotland prior to being shipped back to the U.S.; it, too, had the badges.
A truly odd thing on the U.S. cars is the inconsistency of the wing mirrors. The Coupe had big round mirrors reminiscent of those on Land Rovers, but chrome, while the Saloon had the stately looking oblong mirrors that look great on these cars. My current car, meanwhile, has only a clip-on door mirror (visible in the photograph), and it's remarkable to me that no one ever replaced it. Apparently, mirrors got damaged in shipping, so U.S. dealers put on whatever they had at hand.
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Post by dirkco on Dec 31, 2009 3:45:59 GMT
Hi Gordon,
Glad to see you on the P5 forum!
I will have a front center section you can have when you come up in June. Also I wold look on ebay there are a number of sellers who have after market seat belts you can easily fit.
keep in touch
Dirk
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Dec 31, 2009 10:09:00 GMT
Wing and door mirrors were never standard fit in the UK and Rover offered a variety of aftermarket versions eg Desmo, Magnatex and Lucas of all shapes and sizes which were fitted in often the wrong place so as not to be of any use!
Door mirrors were seen to be far too "Continental" - many P5/P5B's never had any external mirrors as then no legal requirement if an internal mirror fitted
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2010 19:12:13 GMT
nice car dirk , i had only seen pictures of export ones in james taylors book . the seasons are so much kinder over there ... ian
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Jan 7, 2010 3:53:25 GMT
It's my car, Ian, but thanks! Actually, rust is a real problem here, too, and I had to trade a terribly rusted Mk III, along with some dough, for this one. Bodywork is my weakest area (which is saying something), so a solid body was a must.
I recently found all the paperwork for my grandfather's 1965 Coupe, from his private notes (what he wanted), all his correspondence with the factory and agents, to the delivery papers and early service notes. I think it's pretty cool, and will scan and post it if anyone's interested.
Gordon.
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Post by glennr on Jan 7, 2010 9:25:02 GMT
I'm interested ;D
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Post by Warwick on Jan 7, 2010 10:26:29 GMT
Me too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 19:25:47 GMT
hi gordon , sorry about my calling you dirk . though im sure he has a nice car too .i bet most would be interested in seeing paper work from rover . i had a p5b before my current one , my old one on reflection was just haning together , but i was in the daily record with it , years ago . this is a local tabloyd in scotland . front page of the motoring section i was . although looking back i had some wacky ideas on trim in those days . anyone else been in the press with theire cars ?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Jan 7, 2010 19:42:03 GMT
Yes please - this stuff is really part of P5 history
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Jan 7, 2010 22:10:26 GMT
Okay, I'll get busy this weekend. By the way, Dirk has some truly beautiful Rovers, and is one of the acknowledged experts here. I'll be happy to get mine running well in the Spring!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2010 10:11:14 GMT
regarding the wing mirrors , I have a set of door mirrors which you adjust from inside. these were from a P5b but I'm sure they were aftermarket. Scarlettwill
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Jan 10, 2010 16:59:19 GMT
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Post by Gordon Harrower on Jan 10, 2010 17:00:58 GMT
Just tried it, and you have to copy and paste everything through @no2, leave out the saved=1. Sorry about that.
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Post by mcgill on Jan 11, 2010 12:24:23 GMT
thanks but is it me,i still only get page not found???
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Post by glennr on Jan 11, 2010 12:30:37 GMT
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keep looking there are loads of bits sadly mostly overhere 
