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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Mar 2, 2018 16:05:31 GMT
For my curiosity what does filling the arches mean? the standard 185's look fine to me and I cant see how 20mm extra tyre width will make any difference to the average P5 owner, my concern is a discussed in the past too wide a tyre on the rim (wider than 205) for two reasons the insurance side of things fitting a none standard width! also the extra loading on the steering assembly at slow speeds! This is my Old Girl on standard tyres looks full up to me and nice and level
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Mar 2, 2018 16:23:51 GMT
Yes but they look anorexic from the front and you can then see how 'inboard' they are from the wheelarch. To you they look fine, I prefer less gap. My tyres have been complimented many times as being aesthetically pleasing (a bit like your car John) . Unfortunately I cannot add a photo using my phone app but there are photos of my car on the site that show how my wider tyres fill the arches better. I'm completely confident in the tyres having seen wider tyres raced around a track many times, up and over kerbs, 4 wheel drifting on a p5. And I have never seen one come off the rim. Ever. If the track rod ends wear any quicker in normal driving then so be it! But its not like anyone runs their car around a track unless its never seeing the road again, is it
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Mar 2, 2018 18:11:55 GMT
It's horses for courses Roy I suppose! the front on mine is set up as it should be, to lessen the front gap it would meen lowering I would not do that! I guess you have? the suspension is set up (forgetting about tyres) for the car to be level. To each his own I am one of a few guys on here who drove on Crossplies they filled the arches a little better but I am glad the Radial's took their place.
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 18, 2018 10:15:12 GMT
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Aug 18, 2018 13:30:01 GMT
Too big and heavy
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 20, 2018 8:16:42 GMT
Too heavy, I can believe. But why too big? Fitted with 185R16, the diameter is still marginally inferior to that of 6.70x15.
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Post by enigmas on Aug 20, 2018 9:01:47 GMT
Too heavy, I can believe. But why too big? Fitted with 185R16, the diameter is still marginally inferior to that of 6.70x15. Why not just buy a set and fit them to your car. You don't have to convince anyone!
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 20, 2018 14:15:38 GMT
Correct, but I'm only trying to get feedback, not to convince anybody. There were lively exchanges on the forum about tyre sizes, so I thought I might ask. J-J
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Aug 20, 2018 20:59:28 GMT
We have Series Land Rovers too and although I have not tried the wheels they do not even look like they will fit the arches.
I may try this as the PCD is the same but not sure the offset is. I cannot find any photos of the two side by side but I am minded to experiment so as to compare! Watch this space
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 21, 2018 10:32:17 GMT
I 'll watch. Thanks J -J
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Post by Brendan69 on Nov 26, 2018 16:45:38 GMT
I am thinking of changing all the tyres on mine once I get it at the weekend due to their age and I wish to fit white banded tyres on as a nice contrast to the cars colour of Admiralty Blue with white pinstripe.
I plan to contact " cooper tyres " as I know they do supply such tyres so will pass on my findings if successful although I am open to any and all suggestions please from anyone who may have RECENTLY bought and had fitted a new set of white banded tyres in the standard size of 185/80/15 which I plan to retain.
One thing I will be planning to do with my newly acquired Rover P5B saloon is keep it as close to period correct as possible. I am nearly 50 and my boy racer days are well and truly over now albeit I do still take my V12 Aston Martin for a blast now and then which would be rude not too. LOL
Regards,
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Post by lagain on Nov 26, 2018 20:42:04 GMT
You could also try oponio who specialise in tyres for classics Hopefully the pin stripe is Silver Birch
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Post by Brendan69 on Nov 30, 2018 11:02:09 GMT
Yes but they look anorexic from the front and you can then see how 'inboard' they are from the wheelarch. To you they look fine, I prefer less gap. My tyres have been complimented many times as being aesthetically pleasing (a bit like your car John) . Unfortunately I cannot add a photo using my phone app but there are photos of my car on the site that show how my wider tyres fill the arches better. I'm completely confident in the tyres having seen wider tyres raced around a track many times, up and over kerbs, 4 wheel drifting on a p5. And I have never seen one come off the rim. Ever. If the track rod ends wear any quicker in normal driving then so be it! But its not like anyone runs their car around a track unless its never seeing the road again, is it Hi there, I know your post is a few months old but I love the look of those white banded tyres on yours and I would like to do the exact same on my P5B saloon which I collect tomorrow. So to confirm then my friend you have fitted 205mm wide tyres now over the standard 185mm??? Again in the past I have done this on other cars and its never bothered the car at all and I don't drive like a nutter either I just poodle along these days now and enjoy the ride. I have searched the web long and hard this week and all I can find for a really good price is the " maxxis white banded tyre " and I actually have maxxis tyres on my dayvan and they are brilliant. My local tyre fitter in Swindon " save on tyres " is an agent for maxxis tyres along with " alloy gators " too and I have had many sets of both off him in recent years for all my cars and had no issues at all with them. I plan to ask him if maxxix do a 195mm white band and if so then this is the one I will go for albeit if not I am still in the dilemma of what to do. One thing I wont pay is silly stupid prices for tyres as I don't do the miles to justify the price these days and I don't speed either. I atke my time and especially will be in my P5B now. I would just like some further reasurrances please from you longer standing owners and tyres choices before I make my final decision but I do want a white banded tyre. Cheers
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 30, 2018 18:49:25 GMT
205's look good and handle well - I have had them. They do place more strain on the steering and the slower you drive the more so!
I think IMHO 195's are worth a try if you must sport whitewalls. Whitewalls need too attention to stop them looking scruffy and were not Rover endorsed as far too flash. (like Rostyles)
You are unlikely to wear the treads out unless you intend to do high mileage as age and punctures and bad roads will finish them off well before that date so no point paying over the odds
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Post by Brendan69 on Dec 1, 2018 8:26:48 GMT
205's look good and handle well - I have had them. They do place more strain on the steering and the slower you drive the more so! I think IMHO 195's are worth a try if you must sport whitewalls. Whitewalls need too attention to stop them looking scruffy and were not Rover endorsed as far too flash. (like Rostyles) You are unlikely to wear the treads out unless you intend to do high mileage as age and punctures and bad roads will finish them off well before that date so no point paying over the odds Cheers Phil, yes I fully understand your points and others too that have been made but I really want a set of what band tyres so will continue my quest to have some at a fair price. My current best option on offer is a set of Maxxis white bands which are 205 wide and my local tyre dealer is an agent for Maxxis and I use him all the time so i'll seek his offerings and see if they do the same in a 195 width too. Regards,
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Post by enigmas on Dec 2, 2018 9:57:48 GMT
No criticisms guys...but 205s are illegal on 5" inch width rims in OZ but perhaps not the UK. Tyre fitters generally won't fit them to rims that are not of the appropriate size. They may look good (to some) but on a 5" width rim there would be considerable side wall flex and squirm when turning into corners and bends especially with a modicum of speed. This is even more pronounced if 205 tyres with an even higher Aspect ratio is used. (Aspect ratio = Tyre height in relation to width) The best handling/steering/braking performance is usually with tyres of the lowest Aspect ratio...there's little to no squirm or sidewall flex to compromise steering input. Try it...if you have access to a set...the steering especially (even with the factory PS) is transformed. This is to say nothing of aesthetics which is personal taste and subjective. I have a range of rostyles and tyres to choose from some at 185/80/15, 225/60/15 (fitted to widened rostyles) and 185/60/15 shown below on the front of my coupe. The lowest aspect ratio tyre fitted to the front provides the best steering input and handling. I swap these with 185/80s as is my mood....a bit like shoes These are usually fitted to the front and sometimes the rear. and these are on the rear currently.
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Post by Brendan69 on Dec 2, 2018 11:22:54 GMT
She looks lovely my friend and your car aint bad either. LOL.
Great advice and thanks for the detail and pictures which show your points off great.
I will be having a chat with my tyre guy this week whom ive been using now for years. He is also a classic car enthusiast owner which also helps a lot. No way would he ever sell or fit a tyre to a rim if he thought it was unsafe to do so which is why i trust him and use him all the time.
I have to say though the drive home yesterday in horrible British rain on the motorway running on 205 70 15 tyres she drove lovely and straight and not a hint of drifting at all. TBH i was unaware they were 205's until i got home and started looking around the car in my garage so currently i am happy and willing to fit new 205 70 15 white bands over the coming weeks as part of my own personal taste upgrades.
Nothing at all wrong with the BF Goodrich 205 70 15's currently fitted and they are like new so i will probebly sell those on to rake back a few quid in the kitty. Twin Tex door mirrors are a must also as the car has never had any external mirrors fitted strangely enough. How did the 2 previous owners cope in todays traffic is a mystery to me.
Regards,
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Post by ray on Dec 3, 2018 12:06:31 GMT
Brendan, Have you considered Atlas White Wall Inserts? I bought these and they look fine £40.00 total price, fitted at home. But buy the thin line ones, unless you really want the big band! Cheers Ray
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Post by Brendan69 on Dec 3, 2018 13:00:14 GMT
Brendan, Have you considered Atlas White Wall Inserts? I bought these and they look fine £40.00 total price, fitted at home. But buy the thin line ones, unless you really want the big band! Cheers Ray Hi Ray and cheers for the tip albeit I have today placed an order with my local tyre guy in Swindon for a set of 5 new Maxxis M-A 1's ww which have a thin white band applied to them. I should have them all fitted by early next week. Ive been using the Maxxis brand tyre off this agent now for a few years on my other cars I have owned and they have proved to be a excellent tyre in all weather conditions so I stick with them. I was pleased to see also that they do a white banded tyre so ordered a set of 5 today. I took my spare out yesterday to find it was an original cross ply albeit totally shot hence the need for 5 new tyres. I have a great set of BF Goodrich 205/70/15's currently on the car with excellent tread and no signs at all of age wear so I will sell these to reap some pennies back. I have looked at the items you suggested Ray albeit most of them require only to be used on a wheel/tyre which has an inner tube fitted as its something to do with the rim bead. Regards, Brendan
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Post by OlafR on Dec 4, 2018 9:16:23 GMT
Have you considered Atlas White Wall Inserts? I bought these and they look fine £40.00 total price, fitted at home. But buy the thin line ones, unless you really want the big band! Does that mean one can buy the "stripes" separately? I do think white walls look great, even with Rostyles!
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Post by ray on Dec 4, 2018 10:02:02 GMT
Olaf, yes, Look at this link www.portawallshop.com/?refreshed#.XAZOxtOTKUlJust to show what is available. i bought these... Atlas Car 15''x1-7/8" Black and Whitewalls Portawall tire sidewalls, toppers, tyre Insert Trim Set of 4 Once you know what type you want, then look for a more local supplier Check the YouTube fitting videos. It is important to fit them correctly! You could do much damage if they came-off at speed! They are fine if fitted correctlycheers Ray
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Post by biggles744 on Dec 20, 2019 15:10:49 GMT
Hi Geoff, I am new to the tyre debate, I need five 185/80/15, and all I can find are tyres that are listed as van tyres, is there a problem fitting these type of tyres, both in terms of legality and handling? The load and speed rating are fine for a Rover P5 3 litre. Regards Chris
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Post by Eric R on Dec 20, 2019 15:33:31 GMT
I had van tyres after 20yo cross-plies which made the car rumble more and didnt improve the steering. Eventually i found the right size here www.camskill.co.uk/ - Federals which are ok after 2-3 years. Might be made in Taiwan along with a few others but i think theres millions more cars running around in China than here so Im not too worried. Based well up in Cumbria if i remember, about £250 the set of five payment taken after courier delivery. You will have to find a friendly fitter of course. A similar brand Ovation is available with local fitting agents. Most familiar named tyres are made in the far east. roverp5.proboards.com/thread/4206/special-tyre-offer-rover-members?page=1&scrollTo=32541
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Post by David on Dec 20, 2019 15:38:33 GMT
The club no longer offers this service. Give Geoff Arthur a message here as he is the man who knows!
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Dec 20, 2019 18:13:10 GMT
Ovations from Oponeo. They do some excellent tyres of the correct size if you do a high mileage too
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