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Post by cyf on May 21, 2010 20:41:40 GMT
i will ask for the Heritage certificate, but there's some things I don't understand well (never forget I'm French) can you help filling the form?
Make of Vehicle : ROVER Model : P5B Coupé Car / Chassis Number : my chassis n° Certificate to be issued to : me Other Numbers : What is it? Engine n°? Date of First Registration : Is it the date of sale on the Passport to service? Registration Mark : registration number? Any other information : What can I say?
Thank you for your help. On the Passport to service, there's the name of the first owner followed by "ESQ." What does it mean?
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on May 22, 2010 5:53:46 GMT
Just give them all the info you have an say you are requesting the original specification of your car colour etc etc. I can help with this bit ESQ/Esquire 1 A man or boy who is a member of the gentry in England ranking directly below a knight. 2 (Abbr. Esq.) Used as an honorific usually in its abbreviated form, especially after the name of an attorney or a consular officer: Jane Doe, Esq.; John Doe, Esq. 3 In medieval times, a candidate for knighthood who served a knight as an attendant and a shield bearer. 4 Archaic. An English country gentleman; a squire.
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Post by cyf on May 22, 2010 19:32:29 GMT
I asked for a certificate, we will see if it will be helpful.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on May 22, 2010 19:59:49 GMT
Until quite recently ie actually in the 21st we (ie my office/place of employment) still addressed some clients as "Esq" in correspondence unless they had higher status. Now they are just plain "Mr"
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on May 25, 2010 20:41:49 GMT
Cyf, can you take a closer picture of the cover on the headrest over the back seat please? Could you also measure it for me as I'm going to need to copy it. Thanks Roy
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Post by cyf on May 26, 2010 13:20:13 GMT
Hi Roy, Here's what you asked me. The back, with the two clips Can you tell me where is your switch in the car?
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on May 26, 2010 15:41:58 GMT
Cyf, thankyou, that is very helpful.
My sunroof switch is the same as yours but it is placed to the right of the gear lever on the centre console next to the driver. (Right hand drive). I always thought a chrome switch would look much nicer but I could never find a suitable one! Roy
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Post by cyf on May 26, 2010 19:14:10 GMT
You're welcome;
Well, for me, the black switch with the chrome surround is fine because it's on the center consol and the other swiths (fog lamps, cigar lighter and rear window heater) have the same appearance.
If the switch is not at the same location, may be mine is factory fitted..... I hope the certificate will give us the answer.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Jun 14, 2010 11:59:32 GMT
Cyf, you're not going to believe it but I found the cover in your photo! I'm very pleased as I assumed it was lost but I found it in the bottom of a box of parts that came from the previous owner of the car. One of the clips is broken off so I need to fix that but at least I can replace it.
When I am brave enough I need to remove the sunroof to improve how it fits and repair a small tear in the headlining on the sunroof panel.
I help run the south east rover rally and we held it yesterday, there was another car there (PAT ***F) 1968 coupe with a manual version of the metal sunroof. So now we know another one!
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Post by glennr on Jun 14, 2010 13:27:45 GMT
Roy, I know who owns that car and he posts on the forum.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Jun 14, 2010 15:21:13 GMT
Hi Glenn, it used to belong to Bob who was one of our members (and still helps out at the rally each year) but the name of the person who bought it escapes me. I'll have a chat with Bob and find out as it would be good to compare notes!
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Post by cyf on Jun 14, 2010 19:12:37 GMT
Hi everyone,
I'm glad for you Roy, now there's no more hole in the headlining.
I'm still waiting for the Heritage certificate and I'll let you know as soon as it comes
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Post by cyf on Jul 1, 2010 17:34:58 GMT
Hi everyone,
Well, I'm disappointed. I received the Heritage certificate today and it doesn't mention the sunroof.... So I guess it was fitted aftermarket
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Post by cyf on Jul 18, 2010 6:11:10 GMT
Hi everyone,
Roy, in case of electrical failure, can you tell me how to operate the manual winder under the headlining? In my SD1 I have a little crank to do the job, but not in the P5 Thank you
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Post by cyf on Feb 3, 2011 21:02:21 GMT
Hi,
I come back with my question about the manual winder. Does anyone know how to operate it?
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Feb 5, 2011 17:38:07 GMT
Hi, I've never seen the manual winder on mine and I dont have any kind of cranking handle??
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Post by tonys on Feb 5, 2011 20:56:14 GMT
Roy's comments are interesting,as I had always thought that sliding steel roofs (or rooves as used to be!) were generally factory fitted (all makes). I know that specialists could fit them, but I would have thought they were few and far between. Has anybody got one of the options lists from the early 70's, as, IIRC, they were listed as 'factory fit' options, not dealer fit.
The switch in the photo above does look like the ones that were originally fitted.
I would be tempted to say the steel roof is an original fitting. Many cars, of all makes, were later (ie. after initial registration), fitted with webasto type folding roof, or the later glass type tilting/lift out roof, but I haven't come across a car retro-fitted witha steel sliding roof.
Edited: Just realised that I posted this when I was at bottom of page 1, without realising that it was an older post that went on to page 3. So, a bit out of context!
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Post by cyf on Feb 7, 2011 8:05:39 GMT
Hi,
No tonys, you're not out of context. I'm still in search of informations about my sunroof.
So Royfelligham if the motor fails, there's no way to close the sunroof manualy as on the SD1?
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Post by cyf on Nov 25, 2011 12:51:43 GMT
I'm still in search for informations concerning my sunroof wether it's factory fitted or not. Does anyone saw this kind of sunroof recently at events and talked with the owner?
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Post by cyf on Jun 7, 2012 9:53:54 GMT
Any news?
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Jun 8, 2012 11:23:14 GMT
Hi Cyf, I have no way of closing the roof. It does not mean that there wasnt some kind of winding handle originally, maybe there was and previous owners lost them? I always carry spare fuses for the motor to be safe! I will try and remember to check the history of my car again when I get home. The Rover P5 and P5b James Taylor book has a section on sunroofed cars (where mine was used for reference). I will have another look at that.
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Post by cyf on Jun 10, 2012 8:39:52 GMT
Roy, that's my problem: is my car one of the dozen factory fitted sunroof as J. Taylor said in is book, without giving serial numbers. The heritage certificate don't give the answer either.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Jun 21, 2012 15:33:11 GMT
I had a look in the history of my car and found some information regarding the sunroof. The first owner of my car was Rover and it was designated on the Heritage certificate as a show car. After a few months the owner was changed to a garage- I dont have the name here but I think it was linked to Rover in some way. Whilst at the garage a dozen or so cars were selected to be experimentally fitted with the Hollandia metal sunroof. Hollandia came to the garage and fitted them, some were electric, some were manual and P5s and P6s had them fitted. The information is not fully known and James Taylor was trying to research if there was a definitive list of cars. There isn't.
So that explains the quality of the fit, it was done by the Hollandia people themselves in what effectively could be called a dealership. It also explains why the information does not appear on the heritage certificate as it was retrofitted in a dealership at Rovers or the dealers request. The cars were then sold off.
Mine really needs a new rubber surround, I wish I could get one!
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Post by petervdvelde on Jun 21, 2012 17:29:39 GMT
Roy,
Hollandia is a Dutch compagny and is taken over by Webasto. Have you tried to contact them? Website is "Webasto.nl". They may have some seals or know where you can get these,
Peter
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Post by cyf on Jun 21, 2012 19:34:48 GMT
Thank you for having make the research Roy. So, it's not factory made for sure but it's not really something you could order aftermarket.... Anyway, I must take care of my example
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