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Post by Eric R on Jan 30, 2012 8:30:22 GMT
Can anyone offer advice or recommend electronic ignition system please?
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jan 30, 2012 18:20:04 GMT
Eric there is loads on the forum with various comments I suggest you do a Search
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Post by barryr on Feb 2, 2012 0:05:45 GMT
I'd say this search sucks and I speak with 26 years IT experience including supporting several document management systems!! I found 11 results in 500 days of which only one true mention of Lumenition and one of RPI's solution. I'd also be interested to hear what people use. There is a relatively cheap accuspark solution on flea bay that replaces points - has anyone tried that? - my dizzy has the type of points without a pin and this seems to be catered for less frequently than later types.
There are other types for similar cost with red rotor arms (search ebay to see what i mean) that in principle sound good and dump the pesky points/condensor combo.
Always good to hear the latest tech used by people.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2012 11:12:48 GMT
Do we have an electroinic problem?!!
I used Lumention to my complete satisfaction. No problems.
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Post by colnerov on Feb 2, 2012 12:12:45 GMT
Hi, I am confused. Is this for a 6 cylinder or a V8?
Colin
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 14:12:57 GMT
V8 P5B
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 3, 2012 19:14:07 GMT
500 days is not long enough!
Search is tedious though
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Post by Eric R on Feb 10, 2012 20:12:06 GMT
My particular car is original 1959 3 litre Mk1 - and yes, i gave up thread searching after the first 3 days !
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Post by colnerov on Feb 10, 2012 23:46:38 GMT
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 11, 2012 10:49:25 GMT
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Post by Pete Collins on Feb 11, 2012 16:12:45 GMT
Aha, I thought so Eric R is asking about 6 cyl and others are answering V8. Colin I think thats why it is in the 3.0L section ;D
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Post by rcoups on Feb 11, 2012 18:13:25 GMT
Eric I use accuspark on my 3 litre and it has been good as you will know from when we do the shows Ralph
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Post by colnerov on Feb 11, 2012 18:15:58 GMT
I think thats why it is in the 3.0L section ;D[/quote]
Exactly!!
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Post by corbin on Feb 11, 2012 18:22:19 GMT
Accuspark www.accuspark.co.uk/ was the system I chose and bought a kit last month and got around to fitting it today. WARNING if you choose this system. You must protect the supply as it could catch you car wiring loom alight.!!! I fitted the kit exactly as described ,diligently checking wiring and circuits, cranked the engine and it fired up straight away for a few seconds,------ and stopped, continued cranking for a few seconds and noticed smoke wafting from under the bonnet to find the supply wire to the ballast resistor on fireIt appears the module in the distributor shorted directly to ground creating a massive current flow through the supply wire, when i checked the circuit it is un -protected ( no fuse) which caused the weakest part to glow nice and hot just like your toaster. Fortunately it appears the damage is only around the end of the loom near the coil. What should I do now? Any suggestions??
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Post by eisdielenbiker on Feb 11, 2012 18:54:03 GMT
Does the straight-6 have a Lucas distributor? Then I recommend a completely new electronic distributor called 123ignition. It origins from the Netherlands: www.123ignition.nl. I had 2 of them one in an Opel/Vauxhall and later one in a MGB. No problems and very smooth starting and running. You and your engine will like it. For a V8 it is quite expensive, and I already had the Lumenition in place when I got the P5B, which produces no problems either. Mark
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 11, 2012 22:18:17 GMT
Yes - the very common 25D6
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Post by Geoff on Feb 13, 2012 7:30:04 GMT
Hello from Adelaide. I have fitted a 123 GB Electronic Ignition module to my P5 3 litre Mk3 (negative earth). These are made in Holland and it works extremely well for me. Not cheap, but you can adjust the actual advance curve through a 16 position switch to find the one most suitable to your operating conditions. The 123 unit provides no advance under 1000 rpm, so starting is OK, and then you chose how much advance and at what engine rpm it kicks in, and the "slope" of the curve. I ended up using curve 5 which gives a maximum 30 degree advance at 4500 rpm (my engine never goes that fast anyway ;D) with a steeper advance at low engine rpm's to give a better low end torque. There is no pinging or pre-ignition. By the way, the 123 also has a connection for vacuum advance and it uses the existing vacuum advance tube to apply this. Do a web search for the 123 Ignition product. Highly recommended. Cheers, Geoff Rogers. .
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Post by Eric R on Feb 13, 2012 16:59:41 GMT
Yep! I should have said 3-litre but at least I put it in the right section! Thanks gentlemen - very helpful.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 13, 2012 18:24:01 GMT
Early 3 Litres used the superior DMBZ6 which is not compatible with some conversions - Pertronix does fit though
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 2, 2018 15:39:04 GMT
Sorry to dig this old thread. I have a 123 on my '62 VDP Princess 3 Litre. Works a treat. Geoff Arthur Rogers: if you still read the forum, could/did you keep the original Rover distributor cap, or the one supplied with the 123? Cheers, Jean-Jacques Millepied
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Post by Geoff Arthur on Aug 2, 2018 20:32:03 GMT
I used the original cap although it was a brand new / old stock part.
Highly recommend the Distributor Doctor for all this. GA
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Post by jj2106 on Aug 3, 2018 7:32:58 GMT
Thanks a bunch! J-J
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Post by enigmas on Aug 3, 2018 10:23:46 GMT
The 123 system is well designed but expensive. You don't need that sort of outlay for a reliable electronic ignition system unless you must. Any hall effect ignition module cloned/copied from the original 'Pertronix type' will do the job. Other types will also work well if correctly setup as the Optical Piranha system I've been using for over 20 years has been perfectly reliable. Try these guys...I bought one recently for a project. Available for approx. £40 Choose your model distributor (4,6 or 8) You can buy just the basic kit shown below or a complete kit with coil and HT leads. If you are a halfway decent DIY mechanic and can use a multimeter the basic kit below will suffice. simonbbc.com/electronic-ignition-kits/8-cylinder-v8/
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Post by revoxy on May 20, 2020 8:33:31 GMT
I've just fitted an Powerspark kit to my 1968 A-series saloon. After a bit of fettling to get it to fit inside the early distributor, it started up first time. However I measured the voltage at the coil and it was showing 16-17v . I need to bring that down to around 14v otherwise the module in the kit will fry. Any suggestions how I can do this? The car originally had a ballast resistor fitted but this was removed and has since been running a Lucas 12v sports coil to the standard points system. Thanks all.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on May 20, 2020 9:20:20 GMT
Far too high - what is the voltage elsewhere? If its as high as that you have alternator problems - the 4TR possibly
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