trymes
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Post by trymes on Mar 30, 2021 10:12:13 GMT
Jos,
I don’t have experience with either, but you just replied to a nine year-old thread, so you might not get that many responses.
I would suggest that you start a new thread and post a link to this one, mentioning that you found it while searching for answers.
Good luck!
Tom
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Mar 30, 2021 11:33:19 GMT
It is quite OK to resurrect old threads as it reduces Search results. I have both the 5 leafs on our 3 Litre Coupe Auto as it is the heaviest of all and the new 7 leafs on our P5B saloon. The 7 leafs have the nylon leaf spacer buttons as well. Both were supplied by Wadhams and have slotted Y Bush holes to ensure the bushes are not overstressed particularly if rear chassis legs have be repaired/replaced. Both give an excellent ride and both cars stand at the correct height. It is false economy to have the old springs re-tempered as the camber may be wrong and there will be wear ridges from on the leaf under the end of the one above which will click if not removed and the leaf will be weakened anyway in the process. The nylon leaf spacers will be worn too. If you are on FB there is my Public P5 album www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2757648487679689&type=3 with loads of pictures
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Jos
Rover Rookie
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Post by Jos on Mar 30, 2021 15:03:01 GMT
Thank you Phil, useful info and pictures. I'll report when the job is done, which will be after bodyrepair somwhere in May.
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Jos
Rover Rookie
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Post by Jos on Mar 30, 2021 15:05:40 GMT
Hi Tom, always the question to start a new thread or use an existing thread on the subject in forums. I tend to use old threads to avoid too many different threads on the same subject. Helps easy searching. But you're right, if you are not looking in "recent posts" you might miss it.
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Post by Mike’S-a-loon on Mar 30, 2021 15:24:08 GMT
Actually, recent posts does bring up an old thread if someone posts to it.
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Post by lagain on Mar 30, 2021 16:36:37 GMT
My springs have been on for about 20 years and this winter I took them off, took them apart, greased them and put them back on. I used moly grease, as I had some in the garage. I also have spring gaiters which keep the grease in and the springs free from road muck. It might be imagination but she seems to ride better.
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Post by lagain on Mar 31, 2021 16:24:55 GMT
As I had 4 likes for my last post here is a picture of the springs back on and blinged up ! As with the grease the red paint was also on the shelf, so I only had to buy new nuts and cord for the 25 year old gaiters.
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Post by tarnowl on Apr 2, 2021 8:34:54 GMT
Lovely gaiters. Where did you find those?
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Post by MK IA Norway Viking on Apr 2, 2021 9:25:47 GMT
Are gaiters for the front and rear leaf springs to be loved or shunned ? I imagine the gaiters and grease hold on to road dirt creating a fine grinding paste that is breaking / wearing the leaf springs ?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 2, 2021 13:00:24 GMT
The vinyl gaiters fitted as OEM are useless unless they are removed periodically and the springs cleaned and re-greased as intended by Rover. Leaving them bare is only effective if they are more regularly cleaned and re-greased unless the vehicle is never used used in the wet or dusty conditions. Lack of attention to both options will cause rust/grinding/wear/squeaks/knocks from the spring and very poor comfort
The less onerous regime is by wrapping with Denso tape a sticky underground pipe wrap and used on car leaf springs since the 1920s.
It is messy to apply but last 20 years. Putting on gaiters over the wrapped springs makes them look better and original
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 3, 2021 13:02:22 GMT
Gaiters look nice but the Denso does a better job both done together super job Nice job George "but" painted brake pipes can be an MOT failure as the surface cant be seen and judged as being sound. I had this last month on my everyday car with Dinitrol on one brake pipe so was given an advisory also because the car has sill covers it was flagged up as being unable to check the sills!!
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andyk
Rover Newbie
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Post by andyk on Apr 3, 2021 22:37:11 GMT
Painted brake pipes and other protective coatings like under seal are not a MOT failure, they cannot be scrapped off during mot as it would be damaging them so have to advise them 👍
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 4, 2021 9:04:43 GMT
Painted brake pipes and other protective coatings like under seal are not a MOT failure, they cannot be scrapped off during mot as it would be damaging them so have to advise them 👍 I will bare that in mind if I get a failure next time my local garage is a bit picky!!
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 4, 2021 15:54:05 GMT
I do not like painted brake pipes as their condition cannot be properly inspected - my 1970s VW Golf and 1981 Vauxhall Astra both W German made had green enamelled pipes that failed within 6 years. Some of the Golf's ran inside the car. Good idea but corroded around the rubber grommets when they exited to the outside to connect up to the axle. My new 1981 Astra failed its 1st MOT because of a corroded area on the rear main brake-pipe. It was paper thin in parts where corrosion travelled underneath the paint.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 4, 2021 17:15:31 GMT
I used Cunifer pipe everywhere Phil it doesn't rust harder to bend but worth it sorry drifted off topic
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Post by MK IA Norway Viking on Apr 5, 2021 5:51:50 GMT
Good point about Denso and Gaiters in combination. I have always had my front and rear springs bare for I was concerned about the grinding-effect. Rust has never been an issue for my car. Given the comments, I shall try and see if lubricated leaf springs will improve the ride. Which vendor of gaiters is recommended and which grade of Denso tape is advised ? I presume a penetrating oil will be more suitable than to pack grease in-between the "spring-leaves" (sic) ?
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 5, 2021 6:24:01 GMT
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Post by MK IA Norway Viking on Apr 5, 2021 6:41:49 GMT
Thank you, Phil, for the good advice. Gaiter to be obtained from Jon Wadhams ? I presume grease + denso + gaiter is recommended for both rear and front springs.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 5, 2021 9:11:44 GMT
Yes - both front and rear but rear is the more important as they wear faster when unprotected
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