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Post by norvin on Oct 10, 2013 14:03:22 GMT
You can also see the problem I have with the Bonnet fitting at the grill here....  Is it the bonnet that needs adjustment or is it the grill |
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Post by allanthomas1 on Oct 10, 2013 19:10:49 GMT
It is not simple, I might make it sound simple but I have been involved with car restoration professionally for many years,in my day you were taught how to set door hinges without the need to resort to shims, bad gaps could be addressed
by using lead or using some of the techniques already referred to by other members. One of the biggest mistakes people make is fitting new hinges and throwing the old ones away, or removing the hinges from all the doors for respraying, then the fun and games start.
It is a question of experience, you can adjust the wings on the rover P5b how do you think they managed on the production line!.
I had a Rover P5b in a few wks ago with problems closing the front door, the front door looked like it was still open, the problem was caused by the hinges being out of adjustment causing the door to spring open, the owner finally give up after a week,in that time he had butchered the door pillar by making the holes bigger to adjust the position of the catch used an angle grinder to stop the door catching the pillar catch, hinges were in to far causing the door to spring open,and shimmed to the extent that the door was fouling the Catch after adjustment the wing needed to be adjusted out to match the position of the door.By removing the shims the door gap was far better.
New pillar catch needed to be obtained and damaged addressed on door pillar.
The Rover 3litre range had better gaps than the later P5B Rovers.
When rebuilding or restoring a car all gaps should be addressed before the paint stage, it is to late after the paint has been applied, if there are issues with gaps after the paint stage then you have an head ache to sort it out.
Allan
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 21:37:07 GMT
It is a question of experience, you can adjust the wings on the rover P5b how do you think they managed on the production line!. I don't understand if you're referring to the front wings. How can you move them fore and aft when there is no scope for adjustment? At the factory they would have been dealing with perfect castings (not so perfect in later years but certainly in 3 Litre days) and they would have been attaching the wings to perfectly lined up A posts etc etc. They would have have been highly skilled men using lead loading and all the tricks of many years experience dealing with these cars. Chuckles car AAB 803A is 50 years old and probably been subject to some bodging so I think you're being very optimistic to be honest. The current gap might be the least of his worries when he gets the wing off. |
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Post by allanthomas1 on Oct 10, 2013 22:01:39 GMT
That is the problem you don't understand, I have been involved with repairing these cars for many years, including Dovey Motors, they were the main agents for these cars when they were new. Before Lex Mead took over.
My last and final comment on this matter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 7:34:49 GMT
That is the problem you don't understand, I have been involved with repairing these cars for many years, including Dovey Motors, they were the main agents for these cars when they were new. Before Lex Mead took over. My last and final comment on this matter. I've also done a fair bit myself. Pity you've decided to throw your toys out of the pram. |
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Post by Chuck Berry on Oct 21, 2013 18:00:10 GMT
Now! Now! chaps... I don't want to start a war!
I posted these photos just as a storey line... Before and after 'so to speak'
I am well aware of mine, and the cars limitations, but I do have the fortunate bonus of a chap in the next unit to me being one of the old school, and very familiar with body works of our older cars. He is itching to get started, and in the process, doesn't mind me 'looking over his shoulder'
I have seen his work on Stag's and Armstrong's to name two recent works of art. I intend to take lots of photos at all stages of works, so hopefully all will be able to contribute and/or benefit from this, very small job??
I still need to source a good paint/painter though.
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Post by Multi-Tech on Oct 21, 2013 19:41:53 GMT
Now! Now! chaps... I don't want to start a war! I posted these photos just as a storey line... Before and after 'so to speak' I am well aware of mine, and the cars limitations, but I do have the fortunate bonus of a chap in the next unit to me being one of the old school, and very familiar with body works of our older cars. He is itching to get started, and in the process, doesn't mind me 'looking over his shoulder' I have seen his work on Stag's and Armstrong's to name two recent works of art. I intend to take lots of photos at all stages of works, so hopefully all will be able to contribute and/or benefit from this, very small job?? I still need to source a good paint/painter though. Bit of a trip away from you but if I can help in any way regarding the paint feel free to give me a call |
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Post by Chuck Berry on Oct 21, 2013 20:33:25 GMT
Thank you, I may well take you up on the offer.
The first thing I need to source is the Juniper Green and I may well go for the contrasting roof colour that was Stone Grey, according to James Taylor. At the moment it is all one Juniper colour, and what is a bit annoying; the roof is the best part!!!!
I have yet to find a colour picture, or better still, see in the flesh a car of these colours, so I can make a decision  |
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Post by Multi-Tech on Oct 21, 2013 21:34:24 GMT
Maybe worth seeing if some clever computer person can photoshop it?
With regards to the paint I can get the original colours mixed and tinted without much trouble and can be finished in cellulose, 2k, or base and clear
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Post by Chuck Berry on Oct 22, 2013 4:33:27 GMT
Excellent! I will be in touch later.
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