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Post by tonyl on Oct 30, 2013 19:55:07 GMT
The last few posts appear to be slightly at variance with recent history. If you read the post in the link below, you will perhaps see where Mr Wadham has got the idea that the club is or has been involved in a deal with Group Harrington: roverp5.proboards.com/thread/6646/ordering-bumpersOne can hardly defend Mr Wadham's position on the matter, of course, as the discount is small and should have had negligible effect on his business, so perhaps he's got other reasons for stopping manufacture. However, the arrangement of a club discount with Group Harrington does, in my view, imply that the committee of the club believed they were a viable product at the time. Whether that amounts to a recommendation is a question of interpretation. Thanks to Cyf, we now know otherwise, at least for the moment. Tony
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 9:04:06 GMT
The link didn't work for me. Maybe things aren't as clear cut as they've been made out to be.
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Post by David on Oct 31, 2013 9:14:43 GMT
That's because it is in the Members Only section. Go to the home page and enter the password to access. The post will give a code for a Rover P5 Club members discount, should you wish to purchase the product from Harringtons.
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Post by Pete Collins on Oct 31, 2013 10:50:01 GMT
The last few posts appear to be slightly at variance with recent history. If you read the post in the link below, you will perhaps see where Mr Wadham has got the idea that the club is or has been involved in a deal with Group Harrington: roverp5.proboards.com/thread/6646/ordering-bumpersOne can hardly defend Mr Wadham's position on the matter, of course, as the discount is small and should have had negligible effect on his business, so perhaps he's got other reasons for stopping manufacture. However, the arrangement of a club discount with Group Harrington does, in my view, imply that the committee of the club believed they were a viable product at the time. Whether that amounts to a recommendation is a question of interpretation. Thanks to Cyf, we now know otherwise, at least for the moment. Tony Hi Tony You are correct, I did think when Harrington said they would use the measurements (see my earlier posts in this thread)that our North Wales rep had given them that all would be OK. But when Cyrille told us of his problems we knew different. The information on the Harrington discount was then removed from Take Five after only being in one issue. June 2013. It will not go back in until P5 owners are happy with Harrington's bumpers. The club did not ask for or arrange a discount with Harrington or any other company, all discounts have been offered to members by the companies listed. By the way if you read what it says under the black banner at the top of the page that has the discount info on, it says: - This is to inform members of discounts and not to recommend products. Pete Collins Spares Officer Rover P5 Club
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 11:22:09 GMT
It all makes sense now. Thanks.
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Post by cyf on Oct 31, 2013 22:17:32 GMT
Mr Wadhams speaks like all the P5 owners bought "far east" bumpers and let him with a pile of unselled bumpers..... Well, may be three or four of us bought Harrington' bumpers, and the feed back is not excellent. As we can see here, some are interested in buying a SS set, and others want to stay with chrome so I think that there's place for everyone as long as the quality is here So far, the chrome is on the lead on the quality side, good news for JRW
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Post by norvin on Nov 2, 2013 18:21:59 GMT
The chrome bumpers will look much better on our cars then stainless steel, cyf will you get your money back.
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Post by martinihenry on Nov 4, 2013 11:17:35 GMT
i read with interest the fitting problems with Harrington ss bumpers, i purchased a set in May,and just unpacked today after reading this forum. i have three issues with them ,front centre plate has not got dent for starting handle,[P5b instead of p5] fit of over riders to bumper unequal gaps, although do sit in the correct spot all holes for brackets correct on rear bumper,but some brackets on bumper not welded pararell to mounting brackets on car, as my 1963 mk11a is undergoing a full restoration ,it could be this time next year before i need to fit bumpers, cheers martinihenry
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Post by GlennR on Nov 6, 2013 5:34:04 GMT
You only get one chance to make a first impression and they have initially failed. Why are so many things wrong? They must have used/had access to an original spec bumper? I am dumbfounded
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Post by GlennR on Nov 6, 2013 5:35:57 GMT
Thanks for posting this Cyf
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 13:53:34 GMT
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Post by norvin on Nov 6, 2013 15:41:07 GMT
The chrome stuff on Ebay looks good but, I must say that I do wonder why it is so expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 16:23:28 GMT
The chrome stuff on Ebay looks good but, I must say that I do wonder why it is so expensive. The cost of triple plating a rear bumper by a reputable firm is in the region of £800. Good quality chrome work is expensive so those three front parts, if they're as good as they look, don't seem overly expensive bearing in mind the work of finding someone to do it has already been done by the seller.
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Post by harvey on Nov 6, 2013 16:36:57 GMT
The chrome stuff on Ebay looks good but, I must say that I do wonder why it is so expensive. The cost of triple plating a rear bumper by a reputable firm is in the region of £800. Good quality chrome work is expensive so those three front parts, if they're as good as they look, don't seem overly expensive bearing in mind the work of finding someone to do it has already been done by the seller. And he's had to find good straight sections worthy of chrome plating in the first place, and he'll have to continue finding them if he wants to continue as he doesn't seem to be doing them on exchange. Front bumpers are easy to get done, it's finding someone with tanks big enough to do the rears that's more of a problem. If they've been done well I don't think that price is too bad for an outright purchase.
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Post by cyf on Nov 6, 2013 21:51:54 GMT
Thanks for posting this Cyf You're welcome Glenn, I'll ask Group harrington what they think of the thread
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Post by mcgill on Nov 13, 2013 0:51:55 GMT
Cyf being away from forum a while,i completely missed this thread. Must have been fate brought me back,as for xmas we was treating my son to a set of Harrington US beetle bumpers,and unknown to me,son and mrs was treating me to a set.Didnt think about researching as such,just drawn in by the idea of new shiny bumpers. As you,re probably aware "NOW" these problems are not just with the P5 but right across there range. There are the odd lone comment on each forum saying how great service is and how wonderful the fit but mostly the same problems as yourself.
Its a shame they put so much work in ....and got it so wrong... I hope they do get it right for you,you,ve given them enough info to get it right !!!!!(then ill have a order up)
thanks for the very detailed post.
"this should be a sticky and not lost in the forum"
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Post by cyf on Nov 15, 2013 21:07:12 GMT
Hi Mc Gill I'm waiting for their reply , I asked themwhat's up for the bumpers
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Post by cyf on Nov 18, 2013 20:27:14 GMT
Answer from group harrington
"New jigs to test-fit the bumpers have been finished. Currently we have a new bumper set in production- once it is finished I will personally check it carefully together with our QC team. I will make sure that all issues you mention in your emails will be rectified and that the QC-team clearly understands how the bumpers have to be checked in the future."
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Post by Pete Collins on Nov 18, 2013 21:36:25 GMT
Answer from group harrington "New jigs to test-fit the bumpers have been finished. Currently we have a new bumper set in production- once it is finished I will personally check it carefully together with our QC team. I will make sure that all issues you mention in your emails will be rectified and that the QC-team clearly understands how the bumpers have to be checked in the future." Hi Cyf That is more or less what they said to Glyn and to you before sending you the second one. I wonder what MK 111 will be like. Cheers, Pete
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Post by cyf on Nov 19, 2013 7:54:25 GMT
I'll tell you if they send me a set
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Post by cyf on Nov 22, 2013 17:55:21 GMT
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Post by Simon H on Nov 23, 2013 0:37:45 GMT
I can't help but wonder where they get the patterns from. In one forum there's a bloke singing their praises for the bumpers he ordered for his Maserati Ghibli, saying they were as good as the originals. Maybe they found a pair of genuine bumpers somewhere and just sold them on? (Knowing that the chances of a repeat order are just about zero). Most other reviews seem to be somewhat negative along the same lines as we have seen here...
Simon H
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Post by cyf on Jan 20, 2014 20:04:54 GMT
Answer from group harrington "New jigs to test-fit the bumpers have been finished. Currently we have a new bumper set in production- once it is finished I will personally check it carefully together with our QC team. I will make sure that all issues you mention in your emails will be rectified and that the QC-team clearly understands how the bumpers have to be checked in the future."
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Post by cyf on Jan 22, 2014 20:07:27 GMT
Test from France
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Post by enigmas on Jan 22, 2014 22:06:40 GMT
Hi Cyf, glad to see you on board again. Your quote above from Harrington's above perplexes me to a degree. I think it's great that a jig was made (if you can believe it) Wouldn't it just be easier to borrow, loan or hire an unmolested, straight P5, fit the components to assess how they conform to the body and the various attachment points, record any necessary mods to the bumper bracketry, photograph the process (as verification evidence) and be done with it.
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