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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 0:33:36 GMT
I own a rover p4 but want to upgrade to p5b coupe. I would love to, but cant afford to, put a rover 4.6 litre engine into it.
The last 75 V8 ran on this engine, rear wheel drive.
I know some people say that it would be customising it and don't agree, but i would not change the body.
It would be nice to have the P5b with a brand new engine, you can pick them up for about £6000 including injection units etc. As it uses the 3.5 litre bottom end it should fit!
Has any one ever put a modern engine in to a p5?
It's just a discussion at the moment as I cant afford it, but would like your reactions.
Jeremy Bray
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 7:47:49 GMT
I thought the V8 engine in the last Rover 75's was a Ford engine (Current Mustang?) so I would doubt it had the same bottom end as 'our' 3.5 litre unit.  It would be a completely different engine to the Buick based engine - unless I am completely wrong of course. I will do some research on this. CHeers  Freddy |
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Post by DanielSheard on Apr 26, 2006 7:56:41 GMT
You're correct Freddy. Totally different engine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 8:43:39 GMT
There are 4.6 litre versions of the Rover/Buick V8 available (as used in some Range Rovers and other vehicles) - www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/v8engine/eng-fullAs mentioned above, the Rover 75 V8 (and MG ZTV8) use a Ford unit, and I doubt it would fit without serious work. |
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Post by DanielSheard on Apr 26, 2006 9:19:51 GMT
After all, it didn't fit the 75 without serious work!
I might have been severely tempted by the V8 75s except I detest the grille they gave it and I don't really like the facelift 75 anyway.
I ended up with an early 75 in Arden green to match my P5B.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 9:44:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 9:51:28 GMT
but the group 18 insurance is a downer. Some companies will allow them on classic policies. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 11:43:02 GMT
I must be wrong about the 75, sorry but I know you can get a ROVER V8 4.6. Go to www.V8engines.com . The rover V8 is all they do. I've never used them, only read the website. They say the bottom end has always stayed the sameish so should fit any RV8 bay. Wouldn't it be nice, P5b Coupe 4.6 injection! They even do a 5.2! They say it can do 400bhp! But i think a good brake upgrade would be needed. p.s. They do some lovely rocker covers for the V8. |
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Post by jlalexander on Apr 26, 2006 12:06:17 GMT
The 75 V8 is definitely a Ford engine. The 4.6 litre from RPI is a Rover engine. You would need a P5B sump, because it's got a recess for the steering track rod . You would need to have side "ears" bespoke welded to increase the oil capacity of the sump. The BW35 would be a bit undersized to cope with the 4.6 engine torque. You could use a Jaguar XJ6 4.2 BW66 gearbox that will reduce the modifications involved. To my very personal opinion, going that way, a ZF4HP22 would be the best choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2006 12:47:34 GMT
Anyone want to buy my P5b coupe so I can go out and buy that Rover 75 V8!!!
Just think, it's already got the correct brakes, wheels, tyres, suspension, gearbox, ABS, climate, sat nav, leather etc and I could drive it straight away!! It only done 6,000 miles so lots of life left in it.
I saw one driven by Clarkson and he smoked the tyres all the time, wicked!!
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Apr 26, 2006 15:45:57 GMT
Its still not a P5B!
Anyway is the ZF box really any good back in 1991 it began to fail on my 4 year old Rover 820SE after only 25000 miles along with most of the other bits of the car. It was this car that made our future committment to modern cars NIL!
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Post by jlalexander on May 1, 2006 11:24:40 GMT
Phil, about what happened to your 820 gearbox could be just bad luck. The ZF auto-gearboxes are quite good boxes, except that they behave in different ways according to the make that uses them. They don't give much trouble when they are in BMWs, Range Rovers,etc...They are a bit of a pain in Peugeots & Citroëns. The 4HP22 is used a lot in industrial applications (airport tugs for instance) and if they are not abused and regularly serviced, they can last. What people are not aware of (that includes most dealership foremen) is that the ZF 4HP torque converter is draining itself in the sump when the engine is switched off for a while. When you start the engine, the gearbox pump will first fill up the torque converter; if you don't wait a bit and put the box in "D" or "R" immediately, the "A"clutch will work with not enough oil with the obvious consequences. A ZF box must be serviced every 40 000 miles (oil change & filter)
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