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Post by JohnC on Aug 5, 2015 16:48:29 GMT
I am sure that i read somewhere or just imagined it, at my age it hard to tell. Does modern fuels corrode the fuel line system on P5b's and have members changed the existing pipes for more up to date material? Two questions I am sure someone would know the answer to.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Aug 5, 2015 17:05:16 GMT
Who knows? Certainly it attacks rubber very fast and I have a number of such flexibles including the armoured type burst recently. The nylon fuel lines are OK though but being 40+ years old they will also be unsafe and will be brittle and easily shatter if knocked
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Post by harvey on Aug 5, 2015 17:46:25 GMT
It's the Ethanol content that causes the problems.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 21:32:12 GMT
From what I hear modern cars aren't immune to the problem either.Another ill conceived and poorly tested idea from the eco warriors in the EU.
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Post by Warwick on Aug 6, 2015 2:52:58 GMT
I really don't understand why there are problems with ethanol in any cars made in the past 20 odd years. Older cars, that's understandable. Brazil has been using fuel with much higher ethanol content for decades so the car manufacturers have plenty of experience.
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Post by cstorey on Aug 6, 2015 8:42:44 GMT
No, nor do I understand this so-called problem . In the 1960s, my fuel of choice was Cleveland Discol, which was up to 30% ethanol, and it never gave the slightest problem.
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Post by Warwick on Aug 6, 2015 11:10:46 GMT
No, nor do I understand this so-called problem . In the 1960s, my fuel of choice was Cleveland Discol, which was up to 30% ethanol, and it never gave the slightest problem. It can definitely cause serious problems with components in modern cars. What I'm saying is that I don't understand what has changed and why car manufacturers didn't see it coming and make whatever adaptations they made for Brazil.
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Post by enigmas on Aug 7, 2015 5:14:16 GMT
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Post by Warwick on Aug 7, 2015 6:59:41 GMT
Which is why we used to put a cupful of metho in the tank if there was some water (small amount) that we needed to get out. Easier than draining. It just mixed with the metho which was mixed with the petrol and it went through harmlessly to the engine. But this wasn't permanent metho in the system so there were not side effects. Ethanol on its own isn't too bad on components except for nitrile rubber, Buna-N, etc. www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2015 7:58:28 GMT
Sometimes, you just have to use an approved additive, drive the car and hope for the best!
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Post by JohnC on Aug 7, 2015 16:49:05 GMT
I started out a little confused, now totally. Not only are there personal preferences but also some serious technical issues to consider. I think it best not to dwell on this for too long.
However thanks to all for your advice.
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Post by lagain on Aug 7, 2015 19:41:07 GMT
Apparently super unleaded has less ethanol and Millers do an additive that you can use.
I have heard of a modern motorbike that has a plastic tank and the tank has warped !
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