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Post by Warwick on Nov 12, 2015 1:30:01 GMT
Has anyone else found that scrolling down a thread page has become very twitchy lately? Instead of the usual smooth scroll down the page with the mouse wheel, the scrolling motion on the screen has become a series of jumps and lurches. Doesn't matter how slowly or smoothly you turn the wheel. It doesn't happen on other forums or web pages.
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Post by davewright on Nov 12, 2015 8:57:22 GMT
Nothing has changed for me. What are you using to view the forum?
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 12, 2015 10:14:52 GMT
Has anyone else found that scrolling down a thread page has become very twitchy lately? Instead of the usual smooth scroll down the page with the mouse wheel, the scrolling motion on the screen has become a series of jumps and lurches. Doesn't matter how slowly or smoothly you turn the wheel. It doesn't happen on other forums or web pages. You been at those Tinnies again Warwick  |
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Post by Warwick on Nov 13, 2015 6:39:10 GMT
Thanks John.
Firefox Dave.
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Post by guidedog on Nov 13, 2015 7:49:07 GMT
Hi Warwick, I don't have the problem on here, but I do on a football site I frequently use. I am also on Firefox.
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Post by davewright on Nov 13, 2015 9:18:12 GMT
Glad to hear you are using Firefox. It is the best by miles and used by all the worlds IT techies. Are you on the latest version? What version of Windows and which mouse are you using? I cannot reproduce this and it is strange it only happens on one page. Are you using an ad blocker?
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Post by guidedog on Nov 13, 2015 17:53:20 GMT
Windozy forget it. I use Ubunto No blockers, I rely on updates from Ubunto to do there job. Its a Microsoft mouse.
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Post by Warwick on Nov 14, 2015 12:25:46 GMT
It's not just one page. What I meant was, it doesn't do it on the home page or sub forum pages, only on thread pages. It appears to be related to the amount of screen height that each item occupies on the page. The home page and sub-forum 'home' pages only list each topic as a single line. These scroll smoothly. However in any thread, the space occupied by each post (down the page) varies considerably and this is where it jumps. It's as if it's some kind of new stupid feature that attempts to jump to the next post once the end of the previous one is on the screen. Like Adobe Reader does now, between pages. But if that's what it's supposed to do, it doesn't actually work. And it only does it here, so I assumed it might be a new Proboards feature.
Firefox is up to date. It's Windows 7 (64 bit), and it does it with the ancient Logitech wireless mouse plugged into the laptop docking station at the office and my relatively recent wireless Logitech mouse I use away from the office.
I bought a new laptop at the beginning of the year and deliberately stuck with Windows 7, but went from 32 to 64 bit, assuming the only difference would be speed. I also went from Office 2007 to 2013, mainly so I could run two POP3 accounts in Outlook. I have never had so much trouble with a computer before as I've had in the past 11 months. Drivers for scanners and printers that don't work properly any more. Word has become unstable and periodically stops responding for several minutes or shuts down; particularly if opening several documents or an old .doc file. I'll be reverting to 32 bit and Office 2007 as soon as I clear my current work load and can afford being without the laptop for a day or two. Word 2013 appears to have been designed (no Styled is a better word) by a high school student trying too hard to impress. It's full of pointless graphics and animation, and new 'features' that just get in the way. It's the biggest counter productive 'improvement' since the bloody ribbon full of obscure icons replaced original drop-down menus that had proper command names.
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Post by davewright on Nov 16, 2015 10:58:16 GMT
The only difference between 32bit and 64 bit is that 64bit will allow you to use more that 3.5GB RAM. You will therefore notice no difference in performance unless you have lots of memory intensive programs open. I would stick to 64bit if I were you.
Microsoft tends to alternate between good and bad versions of their software. Office 2007 was one of their bad ones. It introduced the ribbon that nobody wanted and made it non configurable. Office 2010 was a good version and allowed you to configure the ribbon. Office 2013 was written by someone who had read 50 shades of grey as they removed all colour from it which made seeing active functions less obvious. I skipped 2007 and went to 2010. I am now on 2013 with Office 365 for work. I have none of the problems you are experiencing. By the way, I use Libre Office on the home computer.
I know what you mean by Adobe Reader jumping when you get between the pages and also find it annoying. However, this is definitely not happening with the forum. I actually use a Logitech Trackman Wheel as a mouse if bad for your hand. I am therefore using a similar Logitech driver. I have tried the various different scroll setting within the driver but found no difference from the default universal scroll setting.
How much RAM have you got in your laptop? What is your internet access speed like? The reason I am asking this is because a Google search on the problem suggests that it is a problem with the computer rather than Proboards. If there is a performance problem it will be seen when scrolling a thread rather than a list do to the graphics in a thread.
As you may have guessed I am struggling for answers but willing to keep trying to help as long as you are willing to keep trying to fix the problem.
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Post by David on Nov 16, 2015 11:45:34 GMT
Hi Wawick Update your mouse - I assume it is a wireless version - from this site: www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-gb/d/wireless-optical-mouse-2.0I had a slight delay in my mouse moving vertically and found an update helped. It is worth noting that when updating, Microsoft lists 'Programs that don't scroll correctly' as an option under 'Vertical scrolling'. Hopefully this may help. |
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Post by Warwick on Nov 18, 2015 2:45:23 GMT
Office 2013 was written by someone who had read 50 shades of grey as they removed all colour from it which made seeing active functions less obvious. Dead right, Dave. Everything is in pastel tones. Contrast has been thrown out the window. Apple did something similar in an iPhone update a while ago. Common everyday software has got to the stage where it has every conceivable useful function, so now in the name of progress and continuing sales they are left with only the appearance and silly features to 'improve'. I've got 4GB of ram but I don't run anything that benefits from the faster speed of 64 bit. My main problem with 64 is the loss of my 11 year old flatbed hi-res scanner. Not supported any more. It does colour slides, 35mm and larger format colour and B&W negatives. My other grievances are all Office 2013 related. Although I hate the ribbon, I got used to it, so at least for the foreseeable future I'll put my copy of 2007 back on. As the scrolling is only a problem on this forum (ignoring Adobe Reader where it's a new 'feature'), I can put up with it until I get 2007 and 32 bit back on. If it doesn't go away then, I'll know it's something else. Hi Wawick Update your mouse - I assume it is a wireless version - from this site: www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-gb/d/wireless-optical-mouse-2.0I had a slight delay in my mouse moving vertically and found an update helped. It is worth noting that when updating, Microsoft lists 'Programs that don't scroll correctly' as an option under 'Vertical scrolling'. Hopefully this may help. Thanks David, That just relates to Microsoft brand mice, doesn't it? |
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Post by David on Nov 18, 2015 9:24:19 GMT
Ah yes it does Warwick. Obvious question time. Has the wireless receiver moved or fallen off the table? I ask only because this happened to me recently  Have you done a full check and clean? Windows icon, select 'Computer', right click on you hard drive, select 'Properties', select 'Tools, select 'Error Checking', select both options. At this point you will be told it will start when you next boot up your computer. It takes a while to do so you might want to restart your computer overnight. Sorry if I am telling you how to suck eggs! David PS I have set the forum background to now scroll with the page. Does this make a difference? |
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Post by djm16 on Nov 18, 2015 22:37:52 GMT
Have you checked to see if some other function (virus) is hogging your processor time?
That is why I have stuck with my ancient desktop, XP and a SCSI HD, scanner, etc.
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Post by Warwick on Nov 19, 2015 2:42:39 GMT
The scrolling background hasn't made any difference David. I'll try the error check tonight.
The office mouse's docking station is less than a metre from the mouse, across the desk, and it's been in that location for 10 years. The other 'portable' mouse uses a tiny USB transmitter/receiver that's permanently plugged into a port on the right-hand side of the laptop. I'm right-handed so when using that mouse, it's never more than a couple of feet away. Usually closer.
Anti-virus updated daily with regular manual scans done too.
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Post by David on Nov 19, 2015 9:34:24 GMT
Hhhuuuuummmm. Obvious question number 2. New batteries?  |
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Post by davewright on Nov 19, 2015 9:52:06 GMT
That is unlikely to be the case as the problem is seen using two different configurations and only seems to affect part of our forum and nothing else. My thoughts are that it is to do with the handling of graphics but hard to understand why that would have changed.
With regards to the scanner, I presume you have tried installing the 32-bit driver?
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Post by David on Nov 19, 2015 13:47:20 GMT
I must admit I have run out of ideas. |
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Post by Warwick on Nov 21, 2015 13:13:33 GMT
I think I'll just have to learn to live with it until I can afford the time to fiddle with settings and driver updates without risking causing unintended problems. Batteries are fine.
It won't accept the scanner's 32 bit driver and no 64 bit driver seems to be available.
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Post by guidedog on Nov 22, 2015 17:10:33 GMT
Hi Warwick,could it be anything to do with the distance between you & us.?
I am not into P.C,s so forgive me if it is a silly question. Another thing that came up with a friend is the speed times. Mine is 25 download, 10 upload how does that compare with yours.
Bob
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Post by Warwick on Nov 24, 2015 0:31:09 GMT
Hi Bob,
Mine's 10 up and down. But it hasn't changed, so it isn't that. If I ever figure out what the problem is, I'll report back.
I suspect that it's software related. I've found that it only does it with Firefox, which is up to date. Doesn't do it with Chrome or Internet Explorer.
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Post by guidedog on Nov 24, 2015 9:04:41 GMT
I will pass that on to my PC wizard
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