frans
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Post by frans on Feb 3, 2016 13:17:24 GMT
Hello,
I am going to repaint my 1961 P5 Saloon now smoke grey. Í am considering to paint the roof in a white tone and the body grey. What color code combination would be most original?
Thanks Frans
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Post by David on Feb 3, 2016 13:28:53 GMT
Silver Birch roof Burnt Grey body.
Though no saloons (only Coupes) were painted this way - you may devalue the car if you follow this combination?
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frans
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Post by frans on Feb 3, 2016 14:31:46 GMT
David,
thanks for the information. I understand that the MK1 1961 was only available as saloon and the coupe came later. Still the MK1 saloon was offered with dual color scheme: Medium Grey/Storm Grey; Rush Green/Shadow Green; Slate Grey/Royal Blue; Smoke Grey/Black; Ivory/Medium Grey; Slate Grey/Storm Grey.? Is this correct and how to understand what was in what color?
Frans
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Feb 3, 2016 16:13:10 GMT
If I recall correctly the early 3 litres were 2 tone by having the bottom half of the car (from the stainless door trim down) a differnet colour. Usually the darker colour was underneath. It colour split stopped above the front wheel where the stainless trim joined the wheelarch.At the back it finished where the back wing met the body (just under the rear lights). In fact, if you look at the picture at the top of the forum page you can see my friends car in the middle (UUN). That is a MK1 Saloon and the darker green is on the lower half.
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Feb 3, 2016 16:35:13 GMT
As Roy says.
The Mk1 and Mk2 saloons were available in two tone as described by Roy above. Mk3 saloons had a different chrome strip and the two tone option was as per the coupe, ie roof was a different colour.
The grey colour options available for Mk1 were, with upper body mentioned first: Smoke Grey over Black Slate Grey over Royal Blue Medium Grey over Storm Grey Slate Grey over Storm Grey Ivory over Medium Grey
Coupe P5 Mk2 colours were, roof / body
Marine Grey over Black Stone Grey over Burgundy Stone Grey over Juniper Green Light Navy over Marine Grey Pine Green over Stone Grey
For Mk3 saloons, ie where a different colour roof was an option, as follows, roof first: Marine Grey over Charcoal White over Marine Grey Black over Marine Grey Light Navy over Marine Grey Burgundy over Stone Grey Juniper Green over Stone Grey Marine Grey over Pine Green
Not an exhaustive list, but I think I've covered all the grey options.
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frans
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Post by frans on Feb 3, 2016 17:41:12 GMT
Many thanks all! Can you give me the color code references matching the color names? On the left my Rover now,in the middle a color comination with the correct spec. and on the right grey/white combination I was planning. I think I will go for the middle one. Again Many thanks Frans
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Post by lagain on Feb 3, 2016 21:28:03 GMT
The middle one looks superb and would suit your car very well. Although coupes look good with different coloured roofs it does not work as well on saloons.
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Feb 3, 2016 22:30:59 GMT
I don't know the paint codes. I did find this link, although I couldn't get the Glasurit link to open, possibly because myinternet has been playing up. You might have more luck. www.roverklubben.se/en/rover-parts.html#färgkoderIf you have decided which Rover colours you are going to use, there might be somebody on here that could check the code shown on their car.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 3, 2016 23:04:05 GMT
The paint codes are no use these days - you just need to know the correct name of the colour Rover used
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Post by ray on Feb 5, 2016 16:05:52 GMT
Frans, If you have the Rover p5 Workshop Manual and the Parts Book these hold pictures and details of Paint. Workshop manual on 2nd page has good pictures of cars showing the colour lay-out for each model. The Parts Book has paint names on page 515 - under 'Cellulose and Finishing Materials'. These are listed by year and model. Regards Ray
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Post by GlennR on Mar 10, 2016 13:26:03 GMT
Just my opinion but Saloon's don't look right to me with a different coloured roof. But the choice is of course yours
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Post by p5bambassador on Mar 20, 2016 9:22:27 GMT
Speaking of body colors: Does anybody happen to know, where the "body color identificaction" labels originally were placed? I could neither find a hint in the workshop manual, nor in this forum or the net in general... Thanks for your advice!
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Post by p5bambassador on Mar 20, 2016 13:48:44 GMT
This is where it was placed on the P5B. This image was in my thread "BW35 cooling system" This original label is in its original position but I suspect the labels were just placed roughly in that area. @@resurgam - thank you so much! This was exactly the picture I was looking for!
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Post by Multi-Tech on Mar 20, 2016 19:02:19 GMT
Frans once you have decided the colours you want to go for post the names and I'll look up to see if I can get a current code? I can only do this in ICI as its the paint I use but which that most suppliers should be able to cross reference it
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frans
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Post by frans on Mar 21, 2016 13:40:06 GMT
The P5 MKI 1961 was original Smoke Grey. After puzzling and comparing we decided on a colour comination Smoke Grey (upper body) and Ivory (lower body) - similar to attached picture. There is a original two colour combination Medium Grey (lower body) and Ivory (upper body), but I like the reverse better Smoke Grey (upper) and Ivory (lower)! Any opinions? Can you provide the original colour codes?
Thanks Frans
Frans once you have decided the colours you want to go for post the names and I'll look up to see if I can get a current code? I can only do this in ICI as its the paint I use but which that most suppliers should be able to cross reference it Attachments:
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Post by peterdenmark on Apr 18, 2016 8:44:01 GMT
The P5 MKI 1961 was original Smoke Grey. After puzzling and comparing we decided on a colour comination Smoke Grey (upper body) and Ivory (lower body) - similar to attached picture. There is a original two colour combination Medium Grey (lower body) and Ivory (upper body), but I like the reverse better Smoke Grey (upper) and Ivory (lower)! Any opinions? Can you provide the original colour codes?
Thanks Frans
Frans once you have decided the colours you want to go for post the names and I'll look up to see if I can get a current code? I can only do this in ICI as its the paint I use but which that most suppliers should be able to cross reference it
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newp5bcoupe
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Post by newp5bcoupe on Nov 6, 2017 11:04:43 GMT
Am building one out of two, a 60 and a 62: fancy an olive green over ivory scheme. The 60 (mk1) has nicer doortrim than the 62. (Mk2?). BUt the 62 has no rust....... any idea of green closest to olive. Juniper ?.
my v8 Coupe is silver birch over zircon blue.....love her to bits
black pver smoke grey is also fetcging but the interior is cream.....
greetings from South Africa. A P5 is a very rare thing here! I am glad to have three.
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tonys
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Post by tonys on Nov 6, 2017 17:46:50 GMT
Photos will help as different people have different views on what shade Olive Green is, so it's difficult to suggest a near-match.
Your '62 could be either a MK1A or a MK2. Door trims on later MK1s and MK1As were different to early MK1s and MK2s were different again and looked completely different.
Probably the easiest way to tell is the front armrests, if the later ones are a totally different shape, much bigger and extending downwards much more deeply, sloping in from top to bottom, that's a MK2.
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newp5bcoupe
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Post by newp5bcoupe on Nov 7, 2017 17:11:45 GMT
Thanks for that info - front armrests eh ?</attachment></attachment> Am hoping these pics come out - alas neither car has papers so I have to register the end product as a rebuild Is there anywhere I can lookup the door plate number ? That might help things along.
The 60 (with wooden window frames and wonderful interior but rusty exterior) will be swapped over to the 62...... which has a perfect body....
Thanks for your support - over the pond here we have very few of these.
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