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Post by Warwick on Jan 17, 2011 3:33:41 GMT
It would be a reprint: Warwick - August 2008 of Take Five  I found it. I must have joined earlier than I thought. You had me puzzled there for awhile David. I searched back and forth through the mag but couldn't find anything. I double checked the issue date and still nothing. Until I put it down and saw the back cover. You misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about printing that photo, I meant getting permission to reprint some of Richard Martin-Hurst's writing (with pictures if available) from the website that I posted links to. |
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Post by glennr on Jan 17, 2011 9:22:12 GMT
Warwick, many thanks for those links.I have sent some e mails to make contact. Watch this space  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 1:35:37 GMT
My printer was on the fritz. Just printed out the p5b article and getting comfortable for a nice read. I finished the how to book on rally prep (How to build a successful low-cost rally car by Philip Young)... great book and well worth the read for anyone thinking of the rally scene.
Warwick thanks for the links!
Now if I can only find a navigator!!!!
Robert
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Post by Warwick on Jan 18, 2011 3:19:17 GMT
A friend in the mid '70s asked me to navigate for him in a night forest rally, in his Mk.1 Cortina. We got about 15 minutes into the 1st stage when I asked him to stop while I threw up. We then had a choice between withdrawing or me driving. He wasn't very happy.
Robert,
Perhaps you should return to your original post in this thread and edit the Subject line to read Rallying, or P5 Rally Car, or something like that. It will make it easier for others searching the topic in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 23:49:43 GMT
Yes most of my friends are drivers! And my wife likes being navigator as long as she can fall asleep and not be bothered for the whole trip!!!
Anyway, since I am planing long distance rallys I am sure taking turns driving and navigating is the norm, 10000 miles is a long way!
Robert
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Post by Warwick on Jan 19, 2011 2:01:49 GMT
Have you got the right number of zeroes in there? That's international marathon stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 14:00:08 GMT
Yes, the trans America is around 4000 miles and the Peking to Paris around 10,000. We have a few 1000 mile runs here in the US which I plan to do first to get my feet wet. In my younger years I drove from Miami to Carmel California in my porsche 356 trying to get the longest traveled car trophy for the Carmel event. The car had it's issues, biggest one being that the starter died on me within the first couple of hundred miles. So every night I had to make sure I parked it on a hill so I could roll an pop the clutch and off I went! I did the trip with my girlfriend, now wife, she left me at new Orleans. Had to go back to work. The rest of the way I was solo.
What a trip. From having a blowout doing 90 that almost killed me to a hurricane force sand storm in El Paso Texas then a break down in the desert where it was 120 in the shade. And at the end... I did not get the trophy. My engine had a catastrophic failure 10 miles from the event. 10 miles!!!!
At the end of the day I was hooked on vintage long-distance rally. And I can't wait to do the next one. But this time in a Rover! ;D
Robert
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 17:30:29 GMT
Hi Robert,
356 is also a favourite! Although even in a 356 I'm damned if I'd leave a girl behind in New Orleans and keep going to the West coast!
More importantly (and I'm not mechanically minded) there are a number of things you should do to tweak the P5B before you leave (discussing the differences with P5 is definitely not my thing but it seems as if you've already pointed in the direction of the B). "Number of things" would be to exclude the classic P5B problems that many of have suffered from and frequently forgotten since. Love is blind.
Perhaps start a new thread when you have the car entitled "What do I need to do to have 100% certainty of completing 10.000 miles quickly in a P5B?"
I'm sure everyone will be willing you to complete the trip and offer advice! Do you have atruck that will accompany you with spare parts and three mechanics?!
Just to get you going I'd suggest removal AED and installation of electric fuel pump. There are many discussions about electronic ignition, three core radiators, fans, ignition cut off systems, alarms
etc.
You sound crazy enough to do it so lets start helping once you've shown intent by getting the car. Which is also a subject. Where would you buy one?
Regards,
Peter
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Post by Warwick on Jan 20, 2011 3:21:40 GMT
I'd forgotten that you mentioned the Peking to Paris. That would be great. I remember watching a documentary years ago on a similar race. Forget the Rover - get a Hannibal Twin 8.
A friend of mine has a number of Citroens and various veteran and vintage machines. He's been on several international "Citroen Raids" across outback Australia (east to west) in Light 15 Tractions and 2CVs. He's doing a slightly different one next time. Across the continent on a 1914 500cc Triumph.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 5:53:31 GMT
Hannibal Twin 8! Classic! The only other cars I would look at would be in the pre 41 category. I have been eyeing the 1934/35 Cadillac La Salle coupe and or the Oldsmobile coupe same years. The biggest difference between them is the caddy is a straight eight and the Olds a straight six.
I would love that caddy, but its a heavy car, so the Olds would fit the bill if I was going pre 41.
I looked at many many pre 68 cars and the Rover won at the end! I even gave the Renault 4 a good look before I realized that I would most likely loose it (mentally)! Comfort is a big plus in these long distance races (one spends all day and night in the cars).
If I cant find the 68 3.5 then the 3.0 will be fine by me. I just have to pull that engine out and take it apart then put it back together so I get to know the mechanics of it. Everything else is basic knowledge.
Electronic ignition will be an add on as will a larger fuel tank. I still need to read the rules about the suspension. Hopefully I can do a few things that will make all the difference when traveling the crapy mongolian roads.
I did get some good news today. the rally group that has put together the past Peking to Paris race just announced the 2013 dates! So I have some time to get everything ready! Oh an I finally have a navigator!
Baby steps... baby steps...
Robert
P.S. The 2010 race was 12,500 kilometers or around 7,700 miles so I was off by a few!
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Post by Warwick on Jan 20, 2011 13:06:08 GMT
This is going to be facinating to watch unfold Robert. Do you know Dirk, of RoveAmerica fame? If not - you should.
By the way, watch out for Glenn, our esteemed magazine editor. He's a bit of a bloodhound when it comes to stories. You're likely to find him hiding in the backseat, dressed as Natalie Wood.
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Post by glennr on Jan 20, 2011 14:54:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 17:04:58 GMT
Had to laugh out loud Glen. Thats one helluva P5B!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 17:29:17 GMT
Robert you sound super confident.
Best of luck with finding the right car.
In the US?
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Post by Warwick on Jan 21, 2011 2:03:47 GMT
You seldom disappoint, Glenn.
As I typed I was wondering how long it would take you to find a photo of Miss Wood in the back of a car.
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Post by glennr on Jan 21, 2011 8:07:55 GMT
Hi Rob, If you can keep us updated that would be great. Many thanks for what you have sent me thus far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 21:22:32 GMT
I'll keep you updated... As for the first major step (purchasing the P5) so far I have found 2 Left hand Drive P5's but as I mentioned earlier I cannot do anything until March. If your curious, I farm Pineapples in Costa Rica and we start picking in February thus the March purchase date. But it looks like I should be fine in that department.
My best friend who lives in Venezuela has committed to the 2013 date. He is a pilot like me so I think the navigation aspect is taken care off!
Once the P5 is in ownership I am ready to take the next step with it which is to prepare it for the rally. I am aiming to keep it as original as possible with the added safety of a roll cage, seat belts and re-enforced body parts. I have already found a few companies that deal with this type of work.
The biggest issues will be getting rid of the gremlins, for one I will be putting a completely new wiring loom. It is a pain to do but I have done it before (on my Land Rovers).
Peter, good idea to post a thread on P5 issues. I will do so once I have the car in hand that way I can provide the exact year and engine and vin #'s.
As for leaving my girl in New Orleans I left her at the airport where she took a flight home (to Miami) so she could be back at work Monday. Funny thing is I had to leave her at the departure area since I could not shut off the 356 (no starter) ;D
Good times!
Okay back to surfing the internet!
Robert
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Post by Warwick on Jan 24, 2011 3:29:37 GMT
Okay, I've started the clock. It's now almost 2:30pm here.
How long will it take Glenn to find and post a photo of a P5 carrying a load of pineapples?
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Post by glennr on Jan 24, 2011 5:00:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 7:40:36 GMT
Glen specialises in fruity pictures!
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Post by Warwick on Jan 24, 2011 11:11:12 GMT
Okay, that was 90 minutes by my reckoning - but he did cheat.
And it's just not cricket, giving the lovely Miss Wood the rough end of the pineapple, as we say here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 14:39:39 GMT
;D ;D ;D I'll take the P5, girl and the pineapples! If you like Pineapples you're probably eating one of mine come March. The distribution company that buys our crop ships them to Europe. Check the label, if it says grown in Costa Rica odds are it could be one of mine! |
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Post by Warwick on Jan 24, 2011 15:13:50 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we get them over here too this season Robert. The recent floods have probably wiped out ours.
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Post by glennr on Jan 24, 2011 19:43:52 GMT
On a serious note, I am really sorry to hear about the awful floods. They have made big news here and the tragedy that has ensued is really bad. I have always admired the Aussie spirit. I really hope there is some respite from the appalling weather. All the best |
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Post by Warwick on Jan 25, 2011 1:26:03 GMT
Thanks Glenn,
What better way to end a 10 year drought, than with once in 200 year floods. First Queensland and now us. About a 1/4 of Victoria is under water, and we were all getting ready for another bad bushfire season after all the late spring rain and heat getting everything growing furiously and building up the forest fuel load. But it still keeps raining regularly, so no chance of a fire around here; not that there is a lot left to burn. But there is still time - February & March often have our hottest weather. Only 2 weeks to the 2nd anniversary of Black Saturday.
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