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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 13, 2007 5:49:41 GMT
Rears finaly fitted interior lights to do today finish recovering the sun blinds then a few little tweaks like ash trays etc etc I may redo the seat backs they are a little faded Then that's that bit done
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Post by glennr on Jun 13, 2007 7:19:54 GMT
Looks lovely John Who is going to do your coachlines?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2007 7:27:00 GMT
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 13, 2007 8:43:14 GMT
Nice one Freddy I will do the coachlines Glenn I have some tape the correct width for the roof and sides so I will mask either side of this with fineline tape remove the center tape and spray very thinly with my smallest smart repair gun
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Post by Warwick (Ozcoupe) on Jun 13, 2007 9:03:06 GMT
Leave the coachlines off, then no one will tell you they are too high, too thin, too thick ot too low!! (I wrote this with a wry smile on my face!) Bloody hell; my fault again. Please accept my sincere apologies.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 13, 2007 9:34:48 GMT
No wonder we got rid of you Aussy lot
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Post by Warwick (Ozcoupe) on Jun 13, 2007 10:45:48 GMT
What are you doing at the computer John? Shouldn't you be working on the car? In fact, I think I should steer clear of this forum until I've got the car on the road again. It's all too depressing. I try not to look at the gallery section, but then people like you go and post high-res photos in other sections as well.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 13, 2007 11:38:41 GMT
I am on the computer tying to get a good price on a Stainless Steel Exhaust got to plan ahead sorry about the pics does this one make you feel better ]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2007 13:32:54 GMT
John
That would have to be the most impressive interiors I have ever seen. Did Rover actally make them this good when they were new?
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 13, 2007 17:40:15 GMT
Yes of course they did to be honest some bits they took a few short cuts but quality was good and it was down to Bill or Fred on a Monday or Friday Thanks for the comments "tjh13 69 Coupe" if Rover took as long as me to make they would have cost 20 times as much
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Post by Warwick (Ozcoupe) on Jun 14, 2007 0:36:32 GMT
I am on the computer tying to get a good price on a Stainless Steel Exhaust got to plan ahead sorry about the pics does this one make you feel better That's much better! (I should have my spare brake cylinders and calliper this weekend ready to be reco-ed, so hopefully we'll be mobile again in a week or two).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 4:24:25 GMT
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 14, 2007 5:53:46 GMT
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Post by glennr on Jun 14, 2007 6:28:41 GMT
I just noted that the top of the armrest has collapsed/ sunk. This is quite common although there are still plenty around that seem OK. I sourced a couple of good one's from David Green as I believe it is hard to repair them to get them back to what they were.
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Post by Warwick (Ozcoupe) on Jun 14, 2007 6:53:01 GMT
Most pre-1980s cars rust out wherever moisture or mud can collect, but probably not as fast since we don't need salt on the roads. Most door rot problems here occur due to blocked drain holes causing mud (dust and rain) to lie in the bottom of the door frame. Generally an old car that gets hosed out under the mudguards and anywhere that mud can accumulate (above headlights, etc.) periodically, or after driving on an unsealed road in the wet and gets its door drains kept clear will survive quite well. A lot depends on where it is as the climate differs considerably around the continent. In the end it comes down to whether any concealed areas stay wet. This will depend on the same factors you have........is it washed and kept clean, has water got under a mat or carpet, do the doors drain, is it garaged or parked outdoors, etc. Then you take all those factors and accelerate them due to salt and more damp weather, or reduce their effect by not having salt and more periods of dry weather. The sun is the killer. We have very high natural UV levels that have been boosted in the last 20 years by industrial activity in the northern hemisphere. British and European cars didn't handle it well until the 80s. Paint and plastics just fade and oxidize. Take a P5, Jag, or similar car from that period with lots of nice paint, leather and wood and park it in the sun for a couple of years and the paint will rub off and surface rust will start, the rubbers will crumble, and the timber and leather will look like it has been attacked by fire or chemicals and just disintegrates. Plastic steering wheels and dashtops just crack and split. The chrome is all that survives.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 14, 2007 7:31:16 GMT
Sounds like a disaster Zone for the classic car owner perhaps we are better off in the UK I must admit I didn't think you suffered from the damp/rust problems I knew the sun was a problem
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Post by glennr on Jun 14, 2007 7:36:43 GMT
Sounds like Armageddon I think we are better off in the UK too. I never thought I would say that . It is amazing how intense the sunlight must be to radiate like that and cause such degradation of the vehicles bodywork.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 14:20:04 GMT
Thanks for that JohnW. I cant imagine the darker furtex in contrast to the the lighter colour carpet, have you seen any photos showing this. Everything I have seen so far show the door pockers to be a light colour and not the darker mulberry. Are you sure that it is not dark brown instead
Yes I noticed that the armrest had sunk GlennR but everything takes time and $ !!
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 14, 2007 14:41:13 GMT
I have a spare map pocket which is faded Mulberry so I would assume it is correct for a Mulberry interior Dark Brown I don't know? I cant see them using Beige or Brown with Mulberry as for carpets I have seen so many colours in the same colour car I got totaly confused
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Post by dorsetflyer on Jun 14, 2007 14:50:12 GMT
If it has 'Mulberry' seats it will have or should have 'Mulberry' door cards, parcel shelf and crash rail. Furtex would be dark red. Carpet would be as said before in previous replies.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Jun 14, 2007 15:05:07 GMT
Looking at the parts bible is gives Tan,Dark Fawn,Toledo Red and Mortlake Brown, so as John says Furtex or Moquette would be Dark Red, so the only red listed was Toledo Red if it was dark I couldn't tell you but you would have to pick near enough colours anyway
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Post by Welsh Warlock on Jun 14, 2007 21:26:15 GMT
The interior of my car is also Mulberry and when I retrimmed all of the Furtex & Furflex, the replacement supplied by Woolies (http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/ ) that was supposed to be Mulberry was more like a Cherry colour. I took the original faded carpet, which had ended up a similar colour to yours, to Jonathan Wadham and he assured me it had started life as grey (I forget teh correct name for it now). I queried the fact that even in the parts of the carpet that hadn't seen daylight in many a year it all appeared to be a sort of creamy, yellowy colour but Mr Wadham was adamant that it should have been grey. The grey does look really good with the Mulberry interior. I just looked and I can't believe I don't have a single photograph of the inside of the car! As the car is sitored away from the house I will have to remember to take some ASAP
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Post by Warwick (Ozcoupe) on Jun 16, 2007 1:28:46 GMT
Sounds like a disaster Zone for the classic car owner perhaps we are better off in the UK I must admit I didn't think you suffered from the damp/rust problems I knew the sun was a problem It's not all as bad as that John and Glenn. I was describing what can happen if you let it. The cars that cop it the most are of course those that aren't garaged and never get any attention, like polishing and waxing. Classic cars that are in use now will tend to get better attention and be garaged because of their value. If they have been resprayed then they will have modern paint and that handles it better anyway. If the classic is a car that has been unused for many years it will of course be fine if it's been in a shed or garage, but if it's been outside just sitting there it will usually be a mess. If it is in a dry part of the country, the sun will have got it. Parking in the shade in summer, tinting the windows and covering the windscreen makes a big difference. It's not all dry and sunny. Where I am is a damp part of the country in winter (now). In fact I woke up to a beautiful clear sky this morning and about 5 degrees C. Had to take my son to play football in the nearby town, so it was looking good. But by the time we left at 8:00am the fog had rolled up the valley along the river and they played in a pea-souper, not being able to see one end of the oval from the other. It's still like that outside now nearly 4 hours later. Very damp and chilly. This was always thought to be the drought-proof part of the country (high yield dairying), so lots of rain in the winter and snow in the nearby mountains, but not anymore. On the other hand, we now get the highly humid summers usually associated with the states further north and that sort of damp isn't good for old cars either as the interior can get damp if they aren't looked after.
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Post by theroveringmember on Jun 16, 2007 16:56:40 GMT
I've seen the Grey/Mulberry combo at some point & for what it's worth I think it looks great. Worth considering even if it's not original. I like the mixed contrasts of these interiors which isn't apparent in my Buckskin/Cream car though I did pick out the doors in Cinnamon Furflex which looks very nice. I'd have the piping on the seats the same colour if I ever had them recovered. But I won't, 'cause they're lovely.
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