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Post by bogbasic on Apr 16, 2016 13:37:04 GMT
Can anyone recommend a windscreen person in the Surrey area who can do front windscreen seals. My local classic car welding specialist (who is very good) was confident until he started... He has the back one out but baulked at the front...
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 17, 2016 7:27:35 GMT
Cant recomnend anyone but they really arent that hard.
The screen just sits in the frame, often fitters try to put the glass in the wrong groove which causes problems. Have actually seen windscreens being cut down to fit due to this.
Maybe if he spoke to one of the forum guys who had done the job he might change his mind.
Good luck.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 17, 2016 9:24:02 GMT
I have done several and shown others they are not easy to get right first time! the corners are difficult due to the fact the "moulding is different" from the OEM. In stretching the corners to reach the screws and clamps causes the rubber to gap between it and the screen, and if your not careful the corner SS trims don't fit properly either, it can be done it's a case of just taking your time and don't even think about trying to fit the seal unless it's nice and warm!!if the trims don't go on with a gentle tap of the hand there is a problem with alignment so double check! don't go attacking the trim with a "Lump Hammer"  |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Apr 17, 2016 14:34:45 GMT
John, is the Saloon screen considered slightly easier? I have been told the Saloon is harder I cant say for sure as I have only done coups I may have a friends saloon to do this year? |
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Post by bogbasic on Apr 17, 2016 21:54:12 GMT
Hello again, it is a saloon and I should have said that the welder was quoted £600 by his usual windscreen person to do the front one but he baulked at the price. Is that a reasonable sort of price for the job as it sounds like a big one?
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Post by Colin McA on Apr 17, 2016 22:31:04 GMT
Bit expensive but the labour rate £60 per hour x 10hrs could be the going rate.
If members can do them i cant see why pros have such a hardtime.
Try a few folk, find a local classic dealer or resto place and see who they use.
Colin
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Post by enigmas on Apr 18, 2016 1:36:28 GMT
Why not get a competent local club member to do the task for a negotiated payment to either the individual or the club. (Who's retired!) Work alongside them and learn the process. (You know the adage.) It's not Rocket science! It has more to do with a methodical and calm approach to the task.
The charges seem exorbitant to me, but take into account business costs relating to travel, employee wages and profit for the parent company. None of these people will be more skilled than some of the very competent restorers in the club for obvious reasons.
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Post by bogbasic on Apr 18, 2016 15:50:38 GMT
Thanks man, that's what I'm here for...
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Post by bogbasic on May 16, 2016 16:48:44 GMT
In the end, the welder blokey did it himself and it went OK but I didn't get a chance to check it carefully due to stress... after spending 2 months pension on it, the basket broke down on the way back from the bodyshop.... will someone take this country bumpkin of a car off me!!??
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Post by enigmas on May 17, 2016 0:47:53 GMT
Bogbasic...you need to take a deep breath with this restoration/repair/renovation or whatever you'd like to term it.
The car's not at fault...it's just a poor old thing that's had a lot of use and little TLC. So you can't really blame an inanimate object.
You don't have to be flush with money but you do need to be patient, methodical and calm in relation to how and what is done.
There's ample skill and knowledge on this forum to guide you in your endeavours. You know the expression Rome wasn't built in a day.
Any restoration is a test of character and endurance, otherwise why would anyone go there.
One step at a time is all that's required. Nothing more.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on May 17, 2016 17:36:54 GMT
I agree 100% with Enigmas - that is the joy of owning a classic and £60 per hour is a low charge out rate for modern throw it way when broke modern cars
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Post by daveh on May 17, 2016 19:03:26 GMT
i can only agree with the other posters there is plenty of help and advice
on the forum and also to say consider again before you give up on your car.
for what it's worth from a member who is also very new to the rover p5, plus
my car is also the saloon car model. when i got this car it was in a very
good condition but i had to have a front screen seal changed as it was
perished luckily i found a windscreen man to do the job and he was at my house
about five or six hours and he encouraged me to help and learn how to do it for
any future needs,the cost for his time and service was about £300, but if you think
had he been fitting bonded screens in modern cars for this time period he could have
possibly earned more money hence the cost of job. i am still finding lots of little jobs that
needed sorting out but i expected that a vehicle 54 years old would need some TLC, and i
am enjoying doing these jobs, so just take a deep breath and keep anouther rover car on the road
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Post by bogbasic on May 17, 2016 21:32:31 GMT
Many thanks all - car all fine - it was the battery not having enough power to start the engine when hot due to fuel evaporation or whatever (and it was me who stalled it). By the way this restoration/repair/renovation started in '93 so its actually more of a lifetime ;-0 ;-0 ;-0 ;-0
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