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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Feb 24, 2006 22:17:43 GMT
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Post by glennr on Feb 25, 2006 7:08:41 GMT
Hi Roy. I am probably the only one on this forum who didn't know you had this car? Could you give me some more details on it and the history etc? Interesting photo's. I hope you do get the time to finiish it as time seems to fly by these days and before you know it another year has passed. Good Luck with the project. ;D
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Feb 25, 2006 11:08:53 GMT
Well what can I say. Some longer term members of the club will remember Jim Matthew. He haaaad a dream! Back in 1990/91 he wanted to build a replica of the panelcraft car and spent a great deal of money with Ely Services (16k+) to get several donor cars and ending up with a fully reconditioned 2 door p5 with concourse engine bay and running gear. Left to do was to chop off the roof, make a new one, fit the interior and get it sprayed.
The money ran out and then an unfortunate incident with gipsies committing arson on his car almost burnt down the garage this car was in (hence the scorch marks on the front). Fortunately the car was unharmed but then personal circumstances meant the car was sold ooop north. The then owner chopped the roof off and it sat in his garage ever since.
I retrieved it a few years back and have ALL the bills from Ely. Since then it has had to wait while I had a family and attend to my sick manta!
Thats it in a nutshell. My plans for this are either to customise it-nice wheels, different interior, modern dials etc etc and maybe even a v8 transplant.- or - I have a 60s two tone colour combination in mind with all original interior. The club will give me a decent valuation on an original finish but will downvalue a custom one. (a bone of contention for me).
I also want to lengthen the doors and shift the B/C post back about 5 or 6" and get a roof made. I'm too scared to get the angle grinder out though!
I'd appreciate feedback on orginal vs custom, it will never be a panelcraft copy as there are too many subtle differences. I'd also appreciate info on companys that might have the experience to take on the roof and doors job. (I must write to Richard Spratley). thanks
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Post by glennr on Feb 25, 2006 12:34:19 GMT
Well Roy, These are my personal opinions I think you should restore to as original as you can.I always think a custom job is great but maybe does not appeal to another persons ideals. I think this would help with it's re- saleable value too in the future. Would this be the only convertible between here and Australiasia? Good luck Roy with your choice.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 25, 2006 14:55:02 GMT
I would like to see either version - after all the convertible was a not production car so it is got to bea custom car anyway unless you want to make it a replica of the Panel Craft one in which case its the right a 3 litre!
It would be nice to see one in its period late 60's restrained customising ie no fancy paint job/wheels etc
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Post by dorsetflyer on Feb 25, 2006 16:03:51 GMT
I agree with previous comments and would go for the original look. You would get the most interest in it and get the best valuation out of it. When you said about getting a new roof made, were you thinking of going for a soft top convertible?
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Post by Smallfry on Feb 25, 2006 20:38:41 GMT
I think it looks better than the convertible made out of a saloon. The windscreen looks all wrong to me.
I was going to suggest lengthening the doors like on Ray Kendalls' car, which Richard Spratley did, then it would look just right.
A set of nice wheels is all the customising it needs, not stupid looking modern alloys though ! Maybe a NICE classy looking colour change too. I would keep the interior more or less as is, but maybe a non standard colour too ? Change the engine if you must (I would) and other mods under the skin. Keep it restrained and it will look real class !
Anything more than this will look pants !
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Feb 27, 2006 12:59:24 GMT
Its not the only convertible Glenn, there is Graham Rigbys beautiful version of a convertible. However since its been sold I have no idea where it is. I've also heard rumours within the club of other members attempting their own convertibles but no firm details. I thought long and hard about colours for the car and I decided that a single colour wouldn't do it. In the end I'm partial to the early 3 litre colour scheme of light grey over dark blue sides (I'm not sure on the exact colour shades). The convertible hood would probably be a dark blue and the interiori would be stone grey with navy piping. Carpets I'm not sure on yet. If I did this I'd probably stick with the original wheels/trims but wind the suspension down. I did think about knocking up a hard top out of a scrap coupe roof until I can afford to have the convertible roof made. That would be a quick option. That would surprise a few people at shows!
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Post by dorsetflyer on Feb 27, 2006 14:24:04 GMT
Have a look in the paint codes for P5's on this site. There are quite a lot of colours in the range you are looking for. Plus it would be nice to have an authentic Rover P5 colour scheme. If you are anticipating Stone coloured seats then go for a light colour carpeting to keep it light and airy.
As for Graham Rigby's convertible I believe it is with a club member in the East Anglia region, but I cannot swear to that.
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Post by lagain on Mar 3, 2006 9:43:47 GMT
Why not weld the doors up, so that the sides are totally smooooth and then hop in and out like the Dukes of Hazzard !
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Mar 6, 2006 10:04:05 GMT
Yess, and then I could fill it with water and use it as a swimming pool............
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Post by glennr on Mar 6, 2006 13:14:02 GMT
I'll get my legs shaved and we'll do some synchronised swimming.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Mar 8, 2006 12:34:32 GMT
Glenn, thats just wrong!!! nooooooo
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Post by glennr on Mar 8, 2006 16:19:29 GMT
Is it Roy? Is it? LOL
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Post by lagain on Mar 14, 2006 19:03:15 GMT
If the hair from Glenns legs was mixed with some filler you would have hair reinforced plastic which might be usefull for any rust holes (which I am sure you havn't), but be careful about hairline cracks !!!
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Post by glennr on Mar 14, 2006 21:58:25 GMT
Perish the thought!!! ;D
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Post by Keith - Portsmouth on Mar 26, 2006 16:32:08 GMT
...there is Graham Rigbys beautiful version of a convertible. However since its been sold I have no idea where it is. There is a nice four page article in the April 2006 issue of Classic Cars about Graham Rigby's car. I get the impression that its still with him, but it could be and old story recycled of course.
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Post by dorsetflyer on Mar 27, 2006 14:52:07 GMT
As far as I'm aware Graham sold it last year just before the National.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Mar 30, 2006 13:46:00 GMT
Keith, thanks for the info on the mag. I didn't realise it was there as they didn't even mention it on the cover?! I collect up anything like this as it all helps with my build (especially the roof). I'll be contacting the magazine to see if they might have any snaps of the roof up or the roof stage shots they took. They can only say no at worst! The car was definitely sold on further north I believe. regards Roy
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Post by David on Mar 30, 2006 13:55:41 GMT
Why not give Graham a call - he is a friendly and helpful chap.
Details can be found in Take Five.
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Post by Roy of the Rovers on Mar 30, 2006 23:32:50 GMT
Oh I will, I will.
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