taz
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Post by taz on Oct 29, 2008 9:55:16 GMT
Progress has been slow, however the vacuum bagging went well.. In the mean time, I've stained a small sample and so far I have applied 6 coats of oil based estapol. "A coat" being a double pass using a spray pack. As you can see below, I'm having trouble getting an even surface. Seems that some parts of the grain repell the estapol. Should I continue and apply more coats with a lite sand in-between coats? Or should I apply the estapol with a brush? Or is there another/better way? BTW - its hard to see the color in the sample, but the lower section has a dark teac stain and the upper portion a golden oak stain, I like the golden oak.
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Post by Warwick on Oct 29, 2008 10:12:15 GMT
It might be due to there being low spots caused by the grain Taz, and the Estapol not having time to flow before it tacks off. Perhaps a light sand then a thinned, brushed coat or two, another light sand then finish of with the spray. In other words, get it all up to the same level by filling the low spots.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Oct 29, 2008 17:10:50 GMT
A grain filler may be required
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Oct 29, 2008 19:32:03 GMT
You will get that effect taz if you keep adding coat on coat you must cut back the laquer/varnish/estapol? after two or 3 coats untill you fill the grain them finish with a light coat of ? then cut and polish.
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Post by taz on Oct 30, 2008 11:37:55 GMT
Thanks guys, Some great idea's. I've started making a lot more samples to try them out. Thanks again, Taz.
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Post by taz on Nov 14, 2008 9:39:36 GMT
OK - need to allow about 2 weeks to do this... mainly because of the 24hours required in between estipol coats. After vaccum bagging, I cleaned up all the edges using a dremel style tool with small cylindrical abrasive bits. This is what they looked like before applying the golden oak stain.... Then I began with a series of samples. I started these 3 days before I started working on the real pieces. I found I need about 6-8 coats of Matt estipol thinned by 50% using a brush. This was required just to 'wet' all of the grain. As mentioned above, too thick and it would dry with pin-holes in the finish. Same if the weather was too cold... Now the peices were ready for full (non-thinned) coats. I used satin finish at this stage (semi gloss) as my samples inidcated that the matt finish was becoming too opache. The satin finish allows the vibrant color of the grain to vary with the angle of view... One one of the samples I tried using scandinavian oil applied with steel wool. While the finish was nice, and it was a good way to end up with a surface free of dust and stuff, it just didnt bring out the color like the satin estipol. ...Now, how did it all go back together again?
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Post by PatMcCoy on Nov 14, 2008 10:10:13 GMT
Very nice. Looks great
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Post by enigmas on Nov 14, 2008 11:57:38 GMT
There's nothing like quality anal retentive work. I'd gladly send you my woodwork. Very nice indeed.
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Post by p5tgc on Nov 14, 2008 14:29:17 GMT
Agree with earlier comments, a superb finish both in terms of colour and gloss. Just right.
Please explain the "vacuum bagging" process for us more simple folk.
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Post by miguel on Nov 14, 2008 14:34:55 GMT
Beautifull job. Is that your final colour? Isnt it a bit lighter than the original? Probably one more coat... if needed.
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 14, 2008 19:32:39 GMT
Excellent finish and very good wood grain - they vay considerbly - is actually to light/reddish if aiming for original finsih though
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 14, 2008 21:38:15 GMT
I have never seen this amount of flaming in the veneer on a P5/P5b but a nice job anyway
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taz
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Post by taz on Nov 15, 2008 10:40:52 GMT
Thanks guys, The colour is a reasonable match for my wood door trims. And vaccum bagging is definately the way to go. I didnt need to steam any sections to take up the shape - just put them in a plastic bag with a small tube sealed using a dob of silicon around the tube in the bag. Connect the other end to the intake of a small pump and suck for 20mins. There is plenty of info on the net - just google vaccum bagging. Cheers, Taz
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Post by Colin McA on Nov 15, 2008 15:52:49 GMT
Looks like you did a good job with your wood, will look great in the car. I know this is a bit late now but I managed to dig out my photographs from when I stripped my wood. I scraped the old lacquer off, with a swiss army knife and gave it a light sanding and applied an equal amount of coats to each piece of wood to get the uniform look. I got the closest match to the darker colour in the local hardware shop and the top half was just a clear coat. Colin [/img]
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 15, 2008 16:19:57 GMT
Correct darkness but a little too red - they do look good though
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