Dry stored for 15 years!!!!!!!!

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Hello......... ;D

She... is a lovely mk 111 P5, 3 litre, auto, with column shift...

She... has as mentioned, spent the last fifteen years in a garage, which has been very kind to sills etc.

She... is actually, very sexy under the circumstances, as her body is solid, her doors do not drop so much as one millimetre when opened, all four jacking points seem to be as hard as nails, and whereas she does have lots of bodywork blisters, they are only surface rust.

Though she is in need of a front bumper... passenger side wing... new brakes throughout... complete re-spray... rubbers... hoses and so on.

My question is.... because she's been nowhere for a decade and a half... how do i best go about firing her up again... and more importantly, what precautions can or should i take prior to attempting a bit of mouth to mouth with her???


Come along chaps... thinking caps on if you please!


Regards

Mungo

07906 34 99 41

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I thank you

[Phil Nottingham]

Welcome - there is load on here. Read the posts

Firstly remove teh plugs and and dribble some WD 40 in and leave overnight .

turn over og handle (only) 1/2 revolution and repeat.

Come back again here to for next stage depending on results.

Do not be tempted to fire it up!

Do the brakes works?

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No way am i going to just fire it up!

Sometimes you can get away with that on p5b v8's and be lucky, though for something that's stood for so long, i want to get it as right as i can from the off.

So you recomend WD40 into all six pots, through the spark plug holes, then leave for 24 hours, before part turning the engine, and repeating the process... is that correct?

And if so, should i repeat it just once, or a couple of times over the course of a week?

Hmmmm... brakes!

Well they were seized rock solid, and it took a few jolts to drag her backwards out of the garage.

Last one to free up was the rear drivers side, but all wheels are now moving... not freely, but moving all the same.

As for the pedal... my friend screamed like a little girl when he tried to stop the car coming right out of the garage and said pedal went straight to the floor.

Having made the car stable, a look under the bonnet showed that on the drivers side of the engine, the servo(? maybe cillinder), is like a snow covered mountain... bundles of white stuff everywhere

She really is a lovely car and way too good for banger racing / breaking or scrapping... she deserves to be kept on the road and i deserve to be driving her

[Phil Nottingham]

Yes or diesel/oi/redex l mixture let it soak - you just may get away without removing the head and the sump but I would then drain the oil and put some cheap supermarket multigrade in 20/50. Then test compressions after dribbling some oil in and turning over on starter to blow it out (with plugs out). See if you are getting a spark too

You have found out about the dangerous part of leaving a P5 standingg for long while. The brakes will need complete strip down - do not bother with the Servo - renew it with a new Lockheed - plenty on SEARCH. You may be able to rescue the front calipers/rear cylinders and master cylinder with new seals if the bores have not gone. Pads and linings are not too expensive if they are needed. New parts excluding the Servo will cost several £100's. The steel bundy pipes and definitley the flexi rubber pipes will need changing.

If the gear box has ATF still in it - it may have survived OK.

The petrol tank wil neeed draining and cleaning out too - try starting from a can full of petrol as thepoints in both sides of the twin pump SU will probably have stuck!

These engines will start and run after a fashion with all sorts of wear and faults present but sticky corroded valves/stuck rings may well prevent it running well - it also depends on the mileage before layup but even if low do expect too much after standing.

The tyres will be well past it even if have good treads and and look free of cracks

Good luck

[Warwick]

Hello Mungo.

So now you've got a 3.5-litre and a 3-litre.
How's the P5B going?

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it isnt

This is why i want to focus on the P5 and get it right this time

[Deleted]

check the points :owith ignition on.
Plug a spark in to the output of the coil check theres a good spark. then check the sparks on the HT's themselves.
Chuck a few cap fulls of fuel straight in to the manifold. Then start it. Worked a treat with my 3 litre

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Nooooooooooooooooo that sounds too dangerous to me.

She's been standing for fifteen years and if its at all possible to save the engine, i'll endevour to do so.

I poured two cartons of 3 in 1 oil into all six pots yesterday and intend to leave that to soak in for at least three or four days.

So on Saturday or Sunday, i'll go back and attempt to turn her over by hand, using the fan and fan belt.

If she turns... i'll go get two more cartons of 3 in 1 oil and repeat the process.

You can't just walk into sleeping beauties bedroom and say get out of bed and run a marathon or you ain't getting no breakfast

They are tough old birds... but they still need to be handled with care and attention.

Smooth... ain't i ;D

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OK............

Well, having poured some 3 in 1 oil into the pots and left it for a few weeks to soak in, i'm happy to say that she roars and purrs!

Yet she's completely silent.

Exhaust fumes are sweet, as there are no black clouds on offer when revving up... though she is drinking like an alcoholic.

And the fuel pump isn't working... though i've been advised to take it off and rub sand paper between the points.

Now all ive got to do is figure out why the brake pedal goes to the floor!


Anyone??

[stantondavies]

Quite simple Mungo, after 15 years standing the WHOLE braking system needs refurbishing. There's plenty of information on SEARCH.