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Post by jimmelia on Nov 15, 2010 16:50:04 GMT
After over six hundred miles this week, on the way back from Scotland traveling at 80 mph on the M6,the starter motor engaged for some six seconds then half an hour later engaged again and stayed engaged i was only yards from an exit so went on ,if you started the engine the motor was staying engaged ,the AA disconnected the wires from the ignition switch to the starter and connected two wires so in could start with the ignition on by touching the wires together, could it ignition switch or starter maybe the inhibitor,HELP!! jim
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Post by colnerov on Nov 15, 2010 17:28:04 GMT
Hi, if taking the wires off the ignition switch cured it that indicates
it was the ignition switch or the inhibitor switch. Try starting it then
removing the small wire from the solenoid and connecting to a bulb.
Then with it idling in gear try moving the gear selector and seeing if
the bulb lights, if yes the it is inhibitor switch, probably adjustment.
With it idling in neutral try jiggling the key, or tapping the ignition
switch, if yes then its the ign switch. However it could be both as
both need to close to do it Sorry to be vague but it is an intermittent
fault. Colin.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 15, 2010 19:02:46 GMT
I don't think it is the inhibitor switch as this is only connected in neutral supplying a +Ve to the Ign relay! it cant supply it's own volts! the logical thing would be either the Ign switch or the Ign Relay.
Remove the White and Blue from the Ign relay if it happens again that will eliminate the Ign switch.
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Post by colnerov on Nov 15, 2010 19:53:42 GMT
Yes, but if the inhibitor switch is out or adjustment and the contacts are
closed and the ign switch fails you have a circuit. I don't think it's the ign
relay because it's not involved in the start circuit! Just to confuse there
could be a short in the loom, but would not be my first port of call.
Colin
P. S. when you say ign relay did you mean starter relay
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 15, 2010 20:27:47 GMT
Yes, but if the inhibitor switch is out or adjustment and the contacts are closed and the ign switch fails you have a circuit. I don't think it's the ign relay because it's not involved in the start circuit! Just to confuse there could be a short in the loom, but would not be my first port of call. Colin P. S. when you say ign relay did you mean starter relay I called it the Ign relay Colin as that is what it is listed as in the manual so as not to confuse jimmelia! it's the relay that energises the starter solenoid. Even if the inhibitor switch was shorted it would still not be a problem only if you start in gear! and I know some guys have shorted it out to keep going  the fact is the relay that supplies the feed to the starter solenoid is either energised or shorting and can be proved by the removal of the W+B to the relay and eliminating the Ign switch. |
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Post by colnerov on Nov 15, 2010 22:07:08 GMT
HI John, sorry, right I see where you are coming from now. Colin
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 16, 2010 6:13:14 GMT
HI John, sorry, right I see where you are coming from now. Colin No problem Colin the great thing is we are both trying to fix the fault   |
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Post by Warwick on Nov 16, 2010 10:08:36 GMT
John,
This thread needs to be moved to the right section or it will be difficult to find later.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Nov 16, 2010 10:32:50 GMT
John, This thread needs to be moved to the right section or it will be difficult to find later. Way to go Aussie well pointed out that's the trouble at just looking at the recent 25 posts  I am assuming it is a P5? if not I will move it again |
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 16, 2010 19:19:35 GMT
Will the starter turn by pressing the button on solonoid
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Post by jimmelia on Dec 8, 2010 11:58:05 GMT
Thank you for your help,will let you know the outcome,regards,jim
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Post by jimmelia on Jan 22, 2011 20:12:05 GMT
Took the easy route and by passed the ignition and fitted a push button starter,works fine so far ,jim
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the fact is the relay that supplies the feed to the starter solenoid is either energised or shorting and can be proved by the removal of the W+B to the relay and eliminating the Ign switch.
I am assuming it is a P5? if not I will move it again 
