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Post by mcgill on Feb 24, 2013 18:54:11 GMT
Slightly misleading title to begin with but hopefully in time more relevant . Carpet posts, theres many of, but they dwindle off to know real answer or comparison. Usually when someone restores/renews something nice theres some explicit pics off, not carpets it seems... I,ve read posts about JRW, Coverdale,( John W  but apart from John ,not a pic to bee seen to compare carpets with. What problems have people come across fitting theres.?? I,ve read Coverdale rear tunnel when ordered with built in soundproofing doesn't fit too well as they cover the whole tunnel carpet with soundproofing. I,ve seen some nice P5,s ,with replacement carpets,and they just do NOT do the car justice, theres two ive seen which look the part but both been constructed themselves .not a company.. I don't know what the other ones ive seen have been made by. Spoke to Coverdale, whom I asked about constructing mine,and they asked for a full spec of what I want,questions I never had a clue about.(but as they sell loads I thought they knew) I managed to get some original rear carpets today,so I know what to tell them. I,ve discovered the rear carpets have steel inserts,which Ive never read before,i don't think,,,,,,,also learnt that if the soundproofing on the rear tunnel is ok, use that instead of new as unlike the rest of the carpets,its only glued,,,,,,and the old soundproofing is moulded already to shape. I,have no front carpets,does anyone have pictures of the rear side of front carpets.? Anyones experience,photos of there carpets.    |
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 24, 2013 20:14:33 GMT
Dave the process is the same all the under felt goes to the edge of the carpet and stitched through with the binding! This picture is of the Coverdale Tunnel Carpet on the right I was asked by a local guy to help as it didn't fit  you can see straight away the difference using the original backing on the left and all the edges are turned under not left raw also the Coverdale was missing a layer. The Center cut out was miles to narrow and from memory the rear was too long  in short they didn't fit it was a "few years ago" so they may have improved? There is Hardboard under the Heal Mat    |
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Post by v8pilot on Feb 24, 2013 21:27:18 GMT
I bought a set of carpets last year from JRW and they are superb after seeing the quality of Coverdale. When you look at the 2 photos, the colour on the RHS is a little strange-is that grey or fawn?! The colour on the LHS is I think too light for Mortlake brown. The only work I had to do was on the gearbox carpet which came with the clear plastic anti-scuff strip stitched in which is a nice touch and very close binding to the original. The great thing was that I ordered on a tuesday and got them on Wednesday-so they must keep a good stock. I have a number of classics and these are some of the best carpets I have seen. I note that there has been some threads about underbonnet blankets which I ordered from JRW at the same time with new S/S wires and even the special clips. Yes, a tight job, but stitched exactly as original. I wouldn't have liked to have done that job every day in the factory!
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Post by Steve P5b on Feb 24, 2013 21:32:20 GMT
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 24, 2013 22:44:08 GMT
As mahatmacoat says use your old carpets for patterns and have a go but bear in mind the limitations of your sewing machine  If you do the carpets the way they were done you need a heavy industrial machine I have 2 a Juki and a Singer 132 K6 the Juki would not take the carpets as in all near enough 3/4" of material (1/2" of felt plus thick wool carpet plus double webbing) had to be pulled through even more thickness stitching through the heal mat, the Singer did the job both machines fitted with DC Computerised control with loads of torque first intended for making the door cards which it after modifying did with ease. I don't know of any domestic machine that would handle this heavy a task (or a lot of industrials) Ok for Vinyls or thin Leather sandwich maybe thin carpet with edging. My version of Mortlake Brown V8pilot  |
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Post by v8pilot on Mar 3, 2013 20:45:32 GMT
John
The carpets in the last photo are very close to Mortlake brown, very similar to JRW's. It looks a great job, how long did it take you to do? Can you give contact details of the carpet supplier for owners? I guess the biggest problem is that most people simply don't have the equipment, patience or time that you have! The one thing I especially liked about the carpet bought from JRW was the perfectly moulded heel mat as I really dislike a sewn in piece of vinyl and my original had worn through.
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Post by newboy on Mar 7, 2013 7:37:28 GMT
Hi All,
apologies if this has been asked before but, I am completely new to car restoration and have a 1969 P5B Coupe in desperate need of carpets. I'm looking at a complete set from the JRW website and read good things about them but can you tell me are the console and tunnel pieces shaped when you get them or are they a fettle job?
thanks in advance.
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Post by mcgill on Mar 7, 2013 18:08:54 GMT
I don't have a complete carpet set, to copy unfortunately,neither a machine I just received email from Coverdale,after sending them sample of carpet,....unfortunately again, they cannot construct in original way as they said the pile is too deep for there machine.(john you was right),(knowitall)  Coverdale commented that they could offer there best carpet, "Kensington",Though they could not even construct that as original,only there cheaper range the Wessex,can have the sewn in felt.. How can they not be able to sew something that could be sew,d 40 years ago??? Disheartened ,,,,,,,, |
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Post by tonyl on Mar 7, 2013 19:36:05 GMT
Does anyone know anything about the carpets sold by Danbury Classic Car Carpets, currently being advertised on eBay? One or two reasonable comments about P6 versions on another forum. Apparently, he will make carpets from a pattern, so he may well be able to help with the transmission tunnel bits, even though he only advertises the main four footwell pieces. His machine may still not be up to the job of replicating the originals in all aspects, of course. He's actually in Danbury, mcgill, so maybe not too far away to visit for you.
Tony
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Post by v8pilot on Mar 10, 2013 20:50:58 GMT
Hi
When I fitted a set from JRWadhams the gearbox tunnel is the only piece that needs some work, but I guess this applies to any carpet set as you need to glue, possibly staple the carpet over the top edge of the cover. This will need to be removed ideally out of the car. There is a sewn joint on mine at the back, possibly to aid fitting, rather than fighting with a 4-5 foot piece it made in one piece as the joint certainly helped me centralise the carpet whilst glueing it.
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Post by newboy on Apr 14, 2013 22:00:17 GMT
Well, I've just opened the box with my complete carpet set in Mortlake Brown from JR Wadhams and I can tell you categorically that these are the best quality replacement carpets I've ever seen. I'll be fitting them in 10 days (ish) time so will post some pictures at that point but these are VERY thick and beautifully constructed carpets.
Only slight issue is that they come monogrammed with JRW logo, but tastefully done. I'm just not keen on free unrequested advertising on my money.
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but apart from John ,not a pic to bee seen to compare carpets with.
you can see straight away the difference using the original backing on the left and all the edges are turned under not left raw also the Coverdale was missing a layer. The Center cut out was miles to narrow and from memory the rear was too long 
in short they didn't fit it was a "few years ago" so they may have improved?
