miguel
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Post by miguel on Feb 26, 2008 21:44:55 GMT
The car! I know I read it somewhere in the forum, but couldnt find it. Are the jacking points the best way to leave the car up for longer periods of time? Wich technic is the best to lift it without danger? I intend to use some large pieces of wood to hold it, but need space to work under it. Thanks Miguel
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 26, 2008 22:07:43 GMT
Don't use the jacking points Miguel there will be a few different opinions of where to safely keep the car jacked up I have 4 axle stands each rated at 6 tons two of which I put under the axle or the spring clamping plate the other two I put under the two anti roll bar clamps or the rear sub frame mounts depending on where I am working, the stands go to 600mm so it gives me loads of space on a mechanics creeper to work under the car and because the stands have a large footprint the car is very stable at the maximum height helped by the flat level surface of the garage floor be careful jacking the car up using bits of wood etc
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 26, 2008 22:13:18 GMT
Yes I fully agree with John - only use the jacking points for wheel changing on one corner only in an emergency and then only if they have been rebuilt - see pictures I posted a couple of years ago of the front one of mine!
The front of the car can be jacked up using the pad on the subframe till the axle stands can be positioned.
The rear you can use the axle centre but protect the drain plug with a outer empty bearing race otherwise the brass plug will be damaged or loosened. You need a good trolley jack!
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Post by miguel on Feb 26, 2008 22:54:29 GMT
6 Tons.... I have 4 of 2 Tons. I thought about that. Really need to feel comfortable down there (plenty of solo work also). That´s why i thought about the wood, but they also take up too much space. Going to get my shovel and start digging ... Miguel
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 26, 2008 23:15:14 GMT
Beware pits can be explosively dangerous due to petrol or propane fumes or suffocating due to carbon dioxide and monoxide or water collecting! Blocks of wood at least 6 inch square can be useful as long as they are steady - sharpe bits like radius rod mountings embed them into the wood without damage and prevent slipping.
Aldi/Lidl (do they have these in your neck of the woods - they are German?) - do some very steel axle good stands which are more than adequate as does Machine Mart mail order
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miguel
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Post by miguel on Feb 27, 2008 0:06:59 GMT
Phil, Seen those stands and didnt believe... Lidl by the way is a very good resource for garage acessories.
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 27, 2008 7:28:37 GMT
The stands I bought are very well made and not expensive the guy still sells them on Ebay and he will discount postage for multiple items. Item number 230226577501 mine were Silverline when they arrived. A heavy duty high lift jack is essensial I use a 3ton and a 2ton as Phil says mind the drain plug in the axle I do use a block of wood here with a hole in it to clear the drain plug Miguel wants the car well in the air Phil so wider bits would best but would limit his space and knowing what Portugal is like for none level concrete I would use wood blocks if I wasn't laying under the car but I speak from experience working under a Mk2 Jag well in the air with the wrong gear and the car came down luckily I had a neighbour who saw it fall and jacked up the car all I got was a tyre mark on my forearm which I had for a long while and if you are working alone Miguel better to be safe than sorry
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