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Post by djm16 on Feb 17, 2016 2:32:57 GMT
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Post by petervdvelde on Feb 17, 2016 15:09:34 GMT
Nice work on your interior! After i will finish the interior wood, i will also do the rest of the interior and i already had a look on the internet for leather paint ect. It is also highly appreciated that you took the time to make the video of the whole process. Thanks for that.It is always good to see reports from independent customers than from the suppliers site. I believe the kit you used is one that will last fairly long so i will use this also.
Peter
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Feb 17, 2016 18:43:48 GMT
That does look impressive
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Post by johnwp5bcoupe on Feb 17, 2016 18:52:56 GMT
Just watched the video well done that gives it another lease of life You can still get the correct thickness of leather if ever you get stuck
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Post by enigmas on Feb 18, 2016 0:26:58 GMT
A useful video for anyone wanting to go the distance on leather seat repairs. Well done.
As an aside, have the seats seen much use since the renovation to them was finalised...and how supple are the leather seat facings now?
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Post by djm16 on Feb 18, 2016 2:02:16 GMT
1) regarding use since the repair: it has had between 100-200 journeys since the repair, and spent many days sitting out in the Australian sun in Summer (windows slightly open when I remember).
2) supple? Hah! 1.2mm leather is not exactly supple to start with. The heavy coats of leather binder certainly stiffen it up some more. The filler and top coats are highly flexible and so do not contribute to stiffness.
The recommended treatment of working the leather while wet with leather reviver would certainly have suppled up the leather but is only practicable where the leather can be removed completely. Not the case here as foam and backing material are sewn into the leather stitching.
Had I tried much manipulation of the seat back that I show, it undoubtedly would have fallen apart in my hands.
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Post by enigmas on Feb 18, 2016 3:11:57 GMT
I didn't realize you were in OZ. My car spent most of it's life in NSW. The upholstery truly was cactus and dried out by the heat and humidity there. The only original interior coverings that survived intact were the door cards and the roof lining. All the remaining needed redoing. Its been done twice in my ownership over 24 years.
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Post by p5rover on Feb 20, 2016 12:55:13 GMT
Great work, good to see an original piece getting a new lease of life. I think the shrinkage around the patch has happened because you pulled the split together, so the split in the leather is naturally wanting to open back to the original size. Best to leave the leather were it wants to be and use a bigger patch.
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Post by cstorey on Feb 21, 2016 13:00:59 GMT
Brilliant stuff, particularly the patches. May I make three suggestions : -
1. the old colour can safely be removed with cellulose thinners
2. A hairdryer is much safer than a heat gun , and is just as effective with no risk of scorching the leather
3. pva adhesive is a much cheaper source of leather binder
Incidentally, for anyone in the UK who wants to have tuition, the Furniture Clinic run 1 day courses, and the Jaguar Enthusiasts' Club have one coming up in March - open to non-members, and you can take your own projects , seats etc along but we found we learned more by not doing so and getting hands on experience in all aspects of the job
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Post by djm16 on Feb 21, 2016 22:55:25 GMT
I am pleased that you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching. YMMV but the colour coat on my 3 litre did not come off with cellulose thinners. PVA Adhesive might be cheaper, but is not remotely like leather binder. It is not a good substitute.
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Post by barryr on Feb 22, 2016 20:21:33 GMT
Loved the video and I am doubly spurred on to tackle mine now. Only issue I have is another split seam on the drivers seat after leaning on it the other day!
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Post by velvet on Feb 23, 2016 21:13:10 GMT
Thats a great job and great result djm16, and a great video. I've recently finished a full re-trim on a MK11C which lives in italy (with the same seats as yours) 1.1mm leather not 1.4mm which is what yours is. Keep up the good work. . Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by djm16 on Feb 23, 2016 22:19:18 GMT
Do you mean you did the leather work yourself, in which my hat off to you.
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Post by velvet on Mar 3, 2016 9:35:04 GMT
No need to take your hat off to me djm16, its my trade, and this is a full re-trim. i haven't seen the actual car as just the interior was sent to me. Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by velvet on Apr 6, 2016 10:09:28 GMT
Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedJust finished these two front seats in real leather (Buckskin) but FULL LEATHER not the usual rover spec leather/leatherette combination. You can always tell when its full leather as the piping is bigger than normal because the leather is thicker than leatherette. it could be skythed to make it thinner but if i did that it wouldn't last five minutes. ( This is part of a full re-trim and is also going abroad !)
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Post by p5rover on Apr 6, 2016 12:55:09 GMT
Just finished these two front seats in real leather (Buckskin) but FULL LEATHER not the usual rover spec leather/leatherette combination. You can always tell when its full leather as the piping is bigger than normal because the leather is thicker than leatherette. it could be skythed to make it thinner but if i did that it wouldn't last five minutes. ( This is part of a full re-trim and is also going abroad !) Think that's the nicest re-trim job I have seen. Well done
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Post by velvet on Apr 11, 2016 9:24:34 GMT
i finished the rear seats today, cards, console, shelfs and posts left to do then its shipped off to Luxembourgh (end of next week). Seems like everybody wants buckskin nowadays, personaly i think 'buiscuit' is better, but each to their own
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Post by velvet on Sept 6, 2016 20:24:46 GMT
This is another full retrim i've just finished. Here you can see the front seats are standard P5B seats but the owner wanted them fattened up to MK111 thickness and the rear headrests have been re-profiled to as thin as possible. They look fantastic. Attachment Deleted
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Post by davethev8nut on Sept 7, 2016 14:30:24 GMT
That looks to be excellent work. Mine need doing but I want to retain some of the patina from the original leather. Can you PM me your details as I would want to outsource the renovation for my seats. Thanks
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Post by petervdvelde on Sept 7, 2016 15:40:48 GMT
i am happy with my recently renovated interior but these seats look very, very nice! Excellent quality! Peter
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Post by velvet on Sept 10, 2016 11:44:34 GMT
Thank you Peter, Yes, your seats you restored look great, restoration of old seats retaining the old leather is great when successfull, the way the p5 seats are designed its usually very difficult to remove the covers, re-stitch them and replace them without them ripping to bits as rover had a horrible habit of using staples around the fluted part and glueing the piping in position just to have the piping facing upwards, and 40+ year old leather is very fragile and brittle,, but you succeded and that is good to see ! i dont post on here much but these links show you how i do it and you can see how vigerous i've got to be to get the shape right with new leather, when i've done this with old leather covers i've usually ripped them especially where i've resown the seams as the sewing machine needle has further weakened the leather where it has just re-stitched. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlBxQgl41F4www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJOfZtWWZs
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Post by velvet on Nov 12, 2016 14:50:35 GMT
Its been a bit quiet on here of late, my engineering skills are limited so i can't have any input on that but my coachtrimming skills span 47 years and i always incourage everyone with a classic car to do their own peripheral trim themselves (ie door-cards, rear shelf etc) and use the services of a trimmer for the seats which is exactly what the owner of these mulberry front seats i've just finished has done. He's done a wonderful job of the rest and when i finish the rear seats he's going to have a new interior at half the price! I've seen it mentioned on here that these seats are very complicated, but actually they are not, what they are is very 'laborious' , hell of a lot to do before you ever begin to put new covers on them, and the secret is all in 'the flutes' get them right and you stand a chance of achieving excellence, get them wrong and the seat will look 'shabby-chic'. I'm not taking on anymore work at the moment but if there is anyway i can help you through this forum, please ask.! Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by richardlamsdale on Nov 15, 2016 22:42:02 GMT
I'm still planning on getting my seats re-upholstered by you in the next few months, but at the moment the car is immobile while I replace the dash wiring, and the garage isn't wide enough to get the seats out. Last time I pushed it out of the garage I almost couldn't get it back in - these P5's are quite heavy.
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Post by barryr on Nov 15, 2016 23:23:38 GMT
I have same issue Richard, garage is too narrow where I a, working. I'm doing the interior one side at a time. Last week I had to remove drivers seat by a contorted process of rolling it out and under the car to clear!
It's a real pain but we just have to persevere eh!
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Post by bigandy on Nov 18, 2016 12:36:11 GMT
Hi DJM what did you use to re cover your door cards please and which supplier? Big andy
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