Jos
Rover Rookie
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Post by Jos on Mar 17, 2021 8:21:59 GMT
Haha Warwick, confusing eehh...? The Netherlands is indeed the lowlands, some parts are meters below sea level, protected by our famous dykes. And you are absolutely right, "Holland" was part of the Netherlands, the western part, and was later popularized as a name for all of the Netherlands. The word is coming from "Holtland" or "Houtland", the Dutch word for "woodland". And on the phrase Dutch, again, you are right, comes from Duutsch, which means Germans. To be clear, we are not Germans... We call ourselves "Nederlanders" (Netherlanders). To get on topic, we imported lots of P5's way back in the seventies and one of our major cinema movies, "Turks Fruit" from 1973 had a nice coupé appearing in a major role. That film, made by later famous Paul Verhoeven and cameraman Jan de Bont was the most successful Dutch film ever. That P5B Coupé still exists by the way. We have more cars than the Norvegians, but they get scarcer and scarcer, specially LHD are a rare find. The club will know better, but I think maybe three dozen or a little bit more actively on the road will be it. I was always intrigued by these massive comfortable cars. In the village where I lived the local accountant drove a P5B Coupé and I loved the design of that car form early age. At last I bought one now and look forward to enjoy it the coming summer. A 1970 saloon, it was originally delivered in the Netherlands and is LHD. Keep up the good work, the P5B earns a good register.
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Post by digger on May 14, 2021 5:41:58 GMT
Gidday Mike. Mine's a saloon. Exciting driving with the front brakes locking on, bits falling off.... Attachments:
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Post by dmaxwell on May 14, 2021 12:57:48 GMT
Well, that's the way life is with 50 to 60 year old cars! I've got a '62 E Type, '63 Dodge truck and the '65 P5. Always something happening with the vehicles!
David California
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Post by pietervdv on Jul 9, 2021 10:37:57 GMT
I'm in Galegos, Marvão in Portugal. My 1970 LHD P5B Coupé is currently being nut and bolt restored here in Portugal and I hope to get it on the road by October.
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Post by Sam Bee on Jul 9, 2021 20:02:48 GMT
Hi Pieter, I have a house near Caldas da Raihna, perhaps we might meet up some time. Cannot get out at moment due Covid-19.
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Post by Warwick on Jul 11, 2021 13:11:29 GMT
I'm in Galegos, Marvão in Portugal. My 1970 LHD P5B Coupé is currently being nut and bolt restored here in Portugal and I hope to get it on the road by October. Welcome Pieter, Looking forward to seeing some photos as the project progresses. I've added you to the list on Page 1.
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Post by pietervdv on Jul 25, 2021 20:32:18 GMT
Hi Pieter, I have a house near Caldas da Raihna, perhaps we might meet up some time. Cannot get out at moment due Covid-19. Meeting up sounds like a great idea. It'll probably have to be in the spring, but we'll stay in touch!
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Post by pietervdv on Jul 25, 2021 20:33:37 GMT
I'm in Galegos, Marvão in Portugal. My 1970 LHD P5B Coupé is currently being nut and bolt restored here in Portugal and I hope to get it on the road by October. Welcome Pieter, Looking forward to seeing some photos as the project progresses. I've added you to the list on Page 1. If you could give me some pointers on how to post pics, I'd be happy to share!
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Post by Warwick on Jul 26, 2021 13:02:03 GMT
Click on the Reply button and look at the toolbar across the top. Press the 7th button from the right-hand end. If you really look hard at it, it looks a bit like a tiny photo print. There is a size limit to uploading photos. I can't remember what it currently is, but I think it warns you if the file is too large. But one of the Moderators will be able to assist. Or you can use a 3rd party image hosting site and just post the link in your reply. Photobucket used to be the main one used, until they got greedy and held everyone to ransom. That's why you'll find so many missing photos and broken image links on the forum.
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Post by jbstanley on Nov 22, 2021 15:53:30 GMT
First post for me on this forum; been lurking on and off for a year. I'm in Texas, USA and have 4 P5's in my stewardship, 3 that came from Kent Kinard in San Antonio and 1963 MkII that was Gordon Harrower's ( roverp5.proboards.com/thread/3897/). I also have two 1953 P4's. It is an interesting story how I got sucked into the Rover world. I started out in 2018 acquiring the first 1953 P4 as part of a deal to buy a 1940 Buick from the same owner who lived less than 5 miles from me. I thought I'd scrap the P4, but decided to practice and learn restoration skills on it before taking on the Buick. That P4 restoration is all documented here: www.electronixandmore.com/resources/automobiles/roverp4/index.htmlWith the restored P4 at a British car show in Texas in 2019 and being the only Rover there, I was approached by an attendee who told me of Kent Kinard's desire to sell his Rover collection and the family was in need of appraisal advice for the Rovers. I visited the family in late 2019 and wound up buying his collection including another 1953 LHD P4 (207 serial numbers before my first P4), a 1966 Mk3 LHD 4sp/OD, 1967 P5B RHD, and a body shell of 1966 Mk3 LHD auto. In trying to track down the title for the 1966 Mk3 4sp/OD, I got in touch with Gordon who had briefly owned this car before trading it for the 1963 MkII from Kent. That was when I learned of the 1963 MkII being available and it was of interest to me because it was a complete original survivor that would be an useful reference for completing the P5 projects from Kent. One of my biggest frustrations with the first P4 was having no comparison or reference besides photos and manual drawings to know what parts were missing to reproduce and fitment, so I didn't get everything perfect with the first P4. Summary of P5's I have in Texas: - 1963 MkII LHD 4sp/OD - Gordon (Virginia, 2009-2020), Kent (Texas, 2007-2009), unknown 1st owner (Colorado, 1963-2007, parked in circa 1984), imported through San Francisco
- 1966 MkIII LHD 4sp/OD - Kent (Texas, 2009-2020), Gordon (Virginia, 2009), Bo Danenberger (Illinois, 1970-2009), Francis Pelly (British consul, Florida, 1966-1970)
- 1966 MkIII LHD auto (body shell) - Kent (Texas, 1999-2020), auto dealer (Devine, Texas, - 1999), unknown prior to this
- 1967 P5B RHD auto - Kent (Texas, 2007-2020), John Sharp (Minneapolis, MN, - 2007), unknown prior to this but originally an UK car
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Post by dmaxwell on Nov 22, 2021 16:15:05 GMT
Welcome to the Forum, as I'm sure you know, P5s are rare in the US. I'm in California and have a '65 Mk IIc LHD that was my grandfathers car. After sitting in my garage for 22 years, I've spent the last year getting it back on the road. To get a bit more poke, I put in a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a 5 speed manual trans. It's my daily driver now though I do need to repaint it. Maybe in the spring!
David Tehachapi, California
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Post by Phil Nottingham on Nov 22, 2021 16:30:11 GMT
Nice tale - welcome and we look forward to hearing and seeing more
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Post by jbstanley on Nov 22, 2021 17:29:25 GMT
Welcome to the Forum, as I'm sure you know, P5s are rare in the US. I'm in California and have a '65 Mk IIc LHD that was my grandfathers car. After sitting in my garage for 22 years, I've spent the last year getting it back on the road. To get a bit more poke, I put in a Chevy 4.3L V6 with a 5 speed manual trans. It's my daily driver now though I do need to repaint it. Maybe in the spring! David Tehachapi, California What trouble did you have with the original drivetrain in your '65? Did you keep it after the Chevy swap?
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Post by dmaxwell on Nov 22, 2021 19:27:09 GMT
The 3L Rover engine started having problems, one of the roller rockers broke, the main crank bearings started to wear out, the cost of engine parts in the US is just out of this world expensive and although the engine is very quiet and smooth, it is a gutless wonder that doesn't put out enough power. The chevy 4.3L engine fits nicely in the car and since the car was already a manual shift, putting in a T5 transmission wasn't too hard (although fabricating the motor and transmission mountings took a bit of work!). My grandfather didn't believe in "frills" like automatic transmissions, power steering and radios!
David California
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Post by Warwick on Nov 26, 2021 12:15:09 GMT
Welcome jb,
I've added you to the list on Page 1 of the thread.
Warwick
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Post by Ken Nelson on Nov 26, 2021 17:24:57 GMT
Greetings JB, I also have a 1966 Rover P5 MkIIC Coupe and am in Grand Rapids, MI. I've been in touch with Gordon before about that car. Is the restoration completed on the car?
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Post by jbstanley on Nov 28, 2021 15:10:32 GMT
Greetings JB, I also have a 1966 Rover P5 MkIIC Coupe and am in Grand Rapids, MI. I've been in touch with Gordon before about that car. Is the restoration completed on the car? The '63 MkII is a fairly complete driver now. I was aware that the interior seats were reupholstered, carpets were re-dyed, suspension, gearbox and brakes had been worked on, ignition and pump upgraded to electronic, among other things. I finished the remaining incomplete interior trim finishings, fixed the radio, and had to take on several mechanical issues that cropped up - replacing spherical bush and end ball on the stick shifter, rebuilding the water pump after bearing gave out, replaced seals to address excessive oil leaks, tided up the engine bay, and now dealing with the hydrosteer box leaking. Here are some photos of the 63 at the 2021 Texas All British Car Days alongside with my 1953 P4: '63 in the garage where I'm storing all the other project Rovers from Kent. The gray Rover on the left is the '66 Mk3 4sp/OD as found. I've been doing some work on the '66 Mk3 in the past few months, the oxidized paint polished up nicely but there's plenty of rust issues on the bottom rails to address before it is drivable. Interior seats and carpet are dry rotted and need to be replaced. I got the '66 engine running last month and still have a lot more mechanical work to do on it, video of engine here:
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Post by Ken Nelson on Nov 28, 2021 15:16:12 GMT
Thanks JB, the Rover looks very nice. I've had to address pretty much all the same things on mine as well.
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Post by Doug Leithauser on Nov 30, 2021 15:48:50 GMT
My wife is the latest owner of the 1966 P5 3 liter that has been in her family since the 70's. I get to be the guy who tries to make it road worthy. It has sat in the back of her brothers garage for at least 20 years, and probably has not been on the road for 40 years. So far, progress is limited to rebuilding the seized rear wheel cylinders and getting the emergency brake operating. I have hopes of getting the engine started and driving it around the yard in the spring.
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Post by jbstanley on Nov 30, 2021 15:58:02 GMT
My wife is the latest owner of the 1966 P5 3 liter that has been in her family since the 70's. I get to be the guy who tries to make it road worthy. It has sat in the back of her brothers garage for at least 20 years, and probably has not been on the road for 40 years. So far, progress is limited to rebuilding the seized rear wheel cylinders and getting the emergency brake operating. I have hopes of getting the engine started and driving it around the yard in the spring. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Looks like a LHD export with automatic? If I recall correctly, only 137 of these were made in 1966 so do what you can to preserve it! Does the engine turn freely, it's easy to do by hand with the crank handle.
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Post by djm16 on Nov 30, 2021 23:28:23 GMT
I love your shed with the decorative light / fan fitting. Is the adjacent space your spray booth?
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Post by Warwick on Jan 20, 2022 3:07:35 GMT
Welcome Doug, I've added you to the list on Page 1 of this thread.
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Post by johninmelbourne on Jan 30, 2022 5:31:44 GMT
Warwick I'm in sunny Melbourne, Australia. I have a P5B which is a bit of a 'fixer upper' but is roadworthy so I take it out regularly. Currently working on the interior; have had the rear seats reupholstered and waiting for the Trimmer to make time to put the new covers on the front seats. John
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Post by Warwick on Feb 5, 2022 3:29:51 GMT
Welcome John, I've added you to the list on Page 1. Are you an RCCA member? In which general area do you reside?
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Post by tarnowl on Feb 20, 2022 18:28:49 GMT
Hi Everyone,
Living in France with a Classic car can give rise to problems concerning the issue of modifications that may become necessary as genuine parts become less available.
In France, it is illegal to modify the car in any way, outside the original Manufacturer’s specifications. This is not a problem in many countries, but here it is strictly forbidden! Any alteration to the original specifications would have to be cleared by ‘Dreal’, the authority for vehicles in France. That means that many of the sort of mods that we talk about on this forum regularly, would not be allowed and would prevent the acquisition of any insurance cover and in the event of an accident, you could find yourself completely libel!
I just wanted to let those people know who may be renovating or modifying their Rovers that this is a real danger, as a good friend of mine, who has a mint Triumph TR6, has just found that his brake improvements , racing prop shaft and row of Webers has meant that he cannot insure it here where he lives and so he is being forced to put it up for sale back in the UK! He is very upset!
Please Beware.
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